QPR Post Match Thoughts

[caytonmiller]

For some reason we seem to have developed a theory that there are teams in this league we should be beating. Everything else taken into account there are no teams we should be beating, however there are teams we need to be beating to survive. If we should beat teams below us then what's the point of the league even carrying on. Leicester and Ipswich should be given promotion now and the rest should pack it in. But they just lost and drew their games so what happened there? We hate it when fans say 'we should be beating teams like Rotherham' so why is it OK for us to say we should be beating teams like SW and QPR. Nobody rolls over in this league and every point we get is a scrap, we know that and today we got one point. Just another 36ish and we'll be safe.

As for PW. I think he was with us so long some fans are still deeply entrenched in their grief over him leaving us. Don't forget he did just that, left us. We didn't sack him. We didn't hound him out. Whatever his tactics were or would have been is immaterial. He's not here any more and that was his choice. People seem to be forgetting that.

Perfect post cam.

[Jocksgloves1]

A good point against, let's face it a better team on the day. Despair at the time of the 66th minute tribute, the frustration that we may have nicked it after our goal.
We are, in my opinion, the worst team in the league, and any points we gain, a bonus at this level.

[Derbymiller]

I don't think it is the fact that we think we should be beating certain teams. You have to put it into context. We should be targeting teams that are around us or likely to be in the bottom 6 as games we need to win if we are to stay up. You don't expect to beat top 10 teams, points against them is a bonus and you take confidence from the performance and the result against them. I think we are the worst team in the league at the moment, but I don't think we should be, we have enough quality in the squad to be the 4th worst team in the league or even the 6th worst team. Injuries pay a huge factor in why our best 11 aren't on the pitch game after game, but the injury story is not simply bad luck there are factors that have contributed to the injury problem. For me the manager and the coaching are the bigger reason why this squad looks the worst team in the league, no pattern or style of play, tactics seem non-existent, repeating the same formation errors week after week, so bad in fact drastic changes are required during the early stages of some games. We sent two fit good pros out on loan when we knew we had gambled on three injury prone aging players, we spend over £1m on a forward then don't play him the list of poor decisions goes on and on, the place we are is due to the leadership, coaching and management, in my opinion. I would change it now, not because I don't like MT but I don't think he has the ability to do the job required. We should assume that relegation is highly likely and appoint someone that will motivate the players to fight and battle to stay up, but has the experience to get us high in league 1 next year.

[the_idiotb_stardson]

One thing Taylor has got right is he wants to get rid of 'the little old Rotherham' mentality.

The first move to overthrowing this limiting thought, would be to get rid of him for the dross, he has served up this season.


Doesn't mean he is wrong about the first point though.

[gru]

Dismiss Taylor keep his coaching staff then not paying all contracts up. Lee Peltier make him player manager. Can get more out of this squad.

[Walt]

Please please please TS wake up and boot MT out and fetch NW in ASAP before its too late . Lose to HT lose to SW draw at home to QPR . Is relegation form . One man and one man only can keep us up - if u act now !!

spot on Nellinio!

[Pocket rocket]

I don't think it is the fact that we think we should be beating certain teams. You have to put it into context. We should be targeting teams that are around us or likely to be in the bottom 6 as games we need to win if we are to stay up. You don't expect to beat top 10 teams, points against them is a bonus and you take confidence from the performance and the result against them. I think we are the worst team in the league at the moment, but I don't think we should be, we have enough quality in the squad to be the 4th worst team in the league or even the 6th worst team. Injuries pay a huge factor in why our best 11 aren't on the pitch game after game, but the injury story is not simply bad luck there are factors that have contributed to the injury problem. For me the manager and the coaching are the bigger reason why this squad looks the worst team in the league, no pattern or style of play, tactics seem non-existent, repeating the same formation errors week after week, so bad in fact drastic changes are required during the early stages of some games. We sent two fit good pros out on loan when we knew we had gambled on three injury prone aging players, we spend over £1m on a forward then don't play him the list of poor decisions goes on and on, the place we are is due to the leadership, coaching and management, in my opinion. I would change it now, not because I don't like MT but I don't think he has the ability to do the job required. We should assume that relegation is highly likely and appoint someone that will motivate the players to fight and battle to stay up, but has the experience to get us high in league 1 next year.

Go back 2 seasons this kind of thing was said about Warne.

[Walt]

Pocket. As fans we felt part of the club under Warney. The way he made the club part of the community will never be repeated.

The turnaround in 12 months is catastrophic for the club on many levels.

Totally agree Frog
Under warne, there was a sense that a club that had been imploding was ultimately pulling back together

Under MT, a club that was riding the crest of a wave is drowning....
While MT barely managed a point a game last season, remember that not only had Warne managed 15 points from the first 10 games (with only one defeat) but MT's first 4 games in charge yield another 7 points - it was only when MT dismantled all the good work that things fell apart and the last 32 games of last season yielded a dismal 29 pointsm, flattered by 4 points in the last 2 dead rubber games
Followed by 14 games of mainly dross this year.....

There was a sense under Warne that he was slowly making a silk purse out a pig's ear - MT is more like Midas in reverse....

[MAMiller]

What has not been mentioned is how much MT is on his the edge of his technical area barking individual orders. It's helicopter coaching that smacks of 1 of 2 things.

1. The players are not listening to the pre match brief

2. The players are just too crap to carry out what he wants.


We've all seen this kind of management on every sat / sun morning touchline with kids and u18s of struggling teams.

Meanwhile at the acadmies the players just get on with the brief with only the odd interjection.

So which one is it MT is it one or both? Because either of them don't reflect well.

I have to say yesterday was an improvement but... From a very low bar at the Sty.

Clucas wide left just stop it.

I wouldn't bring Eaves on even I had 7 players and a man got injured threatening the game being abandoned for too few players... I'd rather take that than bring him on!

Club is in disarray. Disconnected from it's support, adrift from safety, players don't know what the script is.

I saw back in Feb MT wasn't right for this club and he's just making the situation worse the longer it goes on for. Please TS put us all out of our misery you'll have the backing from the support definitely!

[DerekMiller]

It's strange how differences of opinion amongst football fans can create such division amongst "friends." Within this thread, postees dismayed with how Taylor's vision is failing have been compared to BBC journalists misrepresenting the bombing of a hospital, and are now having to suffer the tag of being told we're turning into Wendies. Any more insults you'd care to throw for having a difference of opinion?

For what it's worth, I take no pleasure at all in how this season is collapsing around us. There is this strange belief on here that some people actually take enjoyment out of us playing badly because the biggest joy in their life is to have a good whinge. That may or may not be the case for some contributors but it seems everybody who doesn't see roses and rainbows at NYS is tarred with the same negative brush.

I won't even entertain the ludicrous comparison to the BBC journalists, but I will address the Wendies one.

I don't think we have the right to beat any team. I don't think we should just turn up and be awarded three points because we're up against certain outfits. I don't look down on any club and dismiss them with the "we should be beating teams like...." But equally, I don't outright accept that because we're "lil old Rotherham" who are "punching above our weight" that we should just be happy to be allowed to play in the Championship and we should applaud any dross on the pitch because we have the lowest budget in the league. What is the point in getting this far if we're not even going to compete?

The fact is, we all know every season in the Championship is a mountain to climb. So we need to figure out a way to take as many points as we can from teams that are struggling. If a team is low on confidence and playing garbage then it doesn't really matter how much their players are getting paid a week, once the game kicks off their bank balance ain't gonna run on the pitch and play the game for them.

Thats why in the last month we have had three golden chances to stick it to teams who were low on confidence and playing badly. Bristol City, Wednesday and QPR. All three have sacked their managers because they have been so bloody awful but yet we have managed to scrape 1 point from a possible 9 against these outfits. Made worse by the fact that two of those games were at home. I am not arrogant enough to think we should have walked over these teams, but the performances against Bristol City and Wednesday were so tactically inept and awful that I am disappointed that we have squandered two of our very limited chances to collect points this season. QPR was a slight improvement but again saw a replay of that same garbage 4-3-3 start up that leaves Hugill completely isolated and the team with no width whatsoever.

I'm disappointed and upset that the football club I love seem to be falling apart after working so bloody hard to get to where we are. It feels like (conjecture disclaimer) that this is happening purely because the manager is more interested in doing it his way than deploying tactics that have actually worked. Tactics that worked under him, not Warne or anybody else. But because they might have echoed something Warne did in the past it feels like he resents utilising them. When a manager or leader is reluctant to deploy things that work because it goes against their personal ethos, or some bubbling resentment of being compared to the previous manager, then that is when it is time to have a long hard think about why they are even here.

If all this makes me a Wendy in the eyes of some then I can live with that. I'll still be at the NYS every game supporting the team. I'll still invest significant time and money into supporting Rotherham United and I will still live in hope that Matt Taylor can turn this around and I will gladly come on here and start a thread about how wrong I was if he manages to do so.