O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[KerrAvon]

I’m sorry to hear of your troubles, Frog.

I can empathise with anyone who suffers from a vaccine side-effect. In 1997, I developed Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) shortly after receiving a Hepatitis B vaccination that I needed for my work at that time. I was hospitalised for three weeks and was effectively paralysed for several days, which wasn’t a fun experience. I received treatement until 2003.

It’s impossible to conclusively prove the cause of GBS, but it is an acknowledged vaccine side effect.

Despite my experiences, I continue to have vaccinations when recommended to do so. This year has been a bumper year with tetanus and typhoid boosters and two rounds of MMR for travel purposes. In October, I had my fifth covid jab (all Pfizer). I won't hestiate to have any further Covid vaccinations that I am offered.

The reason that I choose to be vaccinated is because whatever I do for a living now, I am scientist by training and inclination (my first degree include courses in biochemistry, physiology and microbiology, amongst others). I still follow developments in biological sciences and have watched the science surrounding covid and vaccinations with interest. I have also followed the antics of the anti-vax movement that has had such a field day with the pandemic.

I urge anyone with concerns about the covid jabs to ask themselves where they are getting their information from. If it is from the likes of Twitter (X if you must) and Facebook then I would further urge you to reflect upon that. Those platforms are not your friend; they are interested in page views and their algorithms show you material that they think you will be interested in as opposed to a balanced view based on peer-reviewed and reliable science. They create a little echo chamber in which you only see and hear material from the side of the argument that the algorithms believe you to favour. In other words, if you watch and read cobblers, you will be shown more and more cobblers.

Peer reviewed science is not published on X and Facebook; it is published in the likes of The Lancet, The New England Journal of Medicine and the British Medical Journal. I appreciate those journals are not for everyone (me included most of the time), but it’s possible to find more user-friendly analysis such as the lady in the link below. Yes, her voice is undoubtedly annoying, but she tells you where to find the actual science that she is relying upon. The same can’t be said of X:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qqs2yqo1mU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4avgtbCLJWA

[frogmiller]

I’m not against traditional vaccines Kerr. They have saved billions of lives but I am against the experimental mNRA vaccines that the Covid vaccine is based on.

[frogmiller]

Kerr,

Have you looked at the sponsors? I’ve had a quick search and it does raise questions.
Those things that she lists were never said to be problems or effects of the vaccine during the mass international coercion.

[Townerslovechild]

No drugs are 100% safe,the pandemic was a once in a lifetime event (hopefully),hundreds of thousands of people were dying, something had to be done quickly.
As a result a tiny number of people have got ill or even died as a result of the vaccine, this will happen with any new drug, however how many millions of lives have been saved as a result of the vaccine ?
If the vaccine has made you I'll, that's very sad,but for the overwhelming majority of people on earth it was a positive thing to do.

[frogmiller]

No drugs are 100% safe,the pandemic was a once in a lifetime event (hopefully),hundreds of thousands of people were dying, something had to be done quickly.
As a result a tiny number of people have got ill or even died as a result of the vaccine, this will happen with any new drug, however how many millions of lives have been saved as a result of the vaccine ?
If the vaccine has made you I'll, that's very sad,but for the overwhelming majority of people on earth it was a positive thing to do.

If the once in a lifetime event was a natural thing then I’d accept that.

The Covid outbreak didn’t start in the wet market as was first told. In fact the proof and the admission is that there was a a release from the whohan labs sponsored by the USA has already been established.

[crashbang]

Dear me.

[frogmiller]

Dear me.

What’s dear me Crash?

[ragingpup]

If the once in a lifetime event was a natural thing then I’d accept that.

The Covid outbreak didn’t start in the wet market as was first told. In fact the proof and the admission is that there was a a release from the whohan labs sponsored by the USA has already been established.

Sorry to her abut the extent of your illnesses frog. I was starting to look into some of your links that you posted early but then I was laid down with covid and am only just out and about again. With so many different links and perspectives I tend to only single out and test individual claims and see what standing they hold and must say the doctor you linked to didn't hold out well when you look at his X page and links to some data reports he is sharing that have been fact checked by reuters atc - doesn't seem credible with the brief look I had into him, so not sure why I should pay too much heed to his other posiions.

But this got me interested again - 'proof and admission' of a release from Woohan labs sponsored by USA - do you mean undisputed proof that the USA sponsorder the outbreak of the covid virus? What is the evidence for that? Please can you link to it?

I tend to go along with Kerr's (welcome back sir) point that we should really only be making well backed up judgements from the liked of The Lancet and well respected medical journals. I hear much 'bold' claim, usually from themselves' that 'brave' medical progfessionals are scared to speak out against the evidence you quote as they are scared for their careers. I just don't buy that- I would say that respectful, ethical medical scientists are plantiful out there and far from losing status, would have verything to gain from raising the lid on an authentic conspiracy from the big pharmas that wiped out millions o their own citizens. If such a thing were true, whilstleblowers would surely be genuine heroes and the independent and ethical medical scientists would very quickly throw weight behind it.

[crashbang]

Dear me. NO One knows where it originated, apart from you.

[frogmiller]

Dear me.

I’ve been open to everyone and their view on this mRNA experiment.

I know more people that have suffered because of the vaccine than the so called pandemic.

The answers to every question you may want to ask either via Google, dudckduckgo or whoever have been suppressed.

Unfortunately the answers we search on the internet have been erased. Including YouTube !