Ot government cuts

[Brin]

So you are not going to offer any evidence to support your claims, simply double down on them.

Fair enough. It must be a mod thing (apologies to Cam).

What a childish remark to use tut tut and here's me thinking that for once we had conversed well tonight. What I will say is you say you personally know someone affected By Saville, I'll have to take your word on that.

My view is p.aedophile rings have existed way before Saville and they always will because of the sick minds, even of adults of today. I firmly believe that he knew many involved in p.aeodophilia rings but the higher the subject in public life, the tighter the closeness of the ring.

Look to have some grace once in a while and respect what others may think even if you think you know different. It can make you a nicer person, give a go some time. You are not the all seeing eye in knowledge and everything in general life.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

[frogmiller]

So you are not going to offer any evidence to support your claims, simply double down on them.

Fair enough. It must be a mod thing (apologies to Cam).

Sorry CAM 😂

[flourbasher]

What realistic workable plan do you have in mind?

I agree that the early release of prisoners without support is problematic to say the least, but what's the solution if there are more prisoners than prison places?

Well without wanting to state the obvious that’s not something that can be solved overnight. Many facets of westernised society require careful forward planning. Considering the very very limited abilities of our previous government it’s not surprising our prison system is at crisis point though. A scandalous waste of money on the Rwanda scheme and providing very over generous support in the Covid years could have been spent on capital schemes for expansion of the prison accommodation

But as we know we’ve been let down by an incompetent government. So a short term quick fix?
Floating Barges?
Refurbish some of the vacant armed forces married quarters?
Conversion of some surplus office space?

I Accept its Not easy, not cheap and some premises might not be realistic

[Brin]

Sorry CAM ��

He obviously forgot you existed

[frogmiller]

He obviously forgot you existed

He’s including me Brin.

[frogmiller]

He’s including me Brin.

But by writing ‘mod thing’ he’s giving himself some sympathy points as if he’s being bullied by moderators.

[Brin]

But by writing ‘mod thing’ he’s giving himself some sympathy points as if he’s being bullied by moderators.

But he hasn't that's his safety net though like you say.

I think I've shared a few good conversations with him tonight but he's always a 'I want stats' man. Stats aren't always required if one has their own self belief but then comes the belittlement from him, like I said, childish. Long live CAM ....feck thee and me

[MillerBill]

1700 prisoners have been released early,some with no where to go ,so they are going in to hotels.All at the taxpayer's expense.What thought has been put into this crazy idea?At present we have over 10.000 foreign criminals in our prisons,all at the taxpayer's expense.If we deported them back to their home countries, we would not need to release these 1700 criminals.This country is going downwards very fast.

[Back of the net]

Just reading 52 labour MPS abstained in their vote on the winter fuel allowance. Only 1 MP voted against. I’m assuming that’s the correct information.
That’s a shameful bunch of cowards who really don’t give a **** about anyone but themselves.
Cowards the lot of them.

[KerrAvon]

Well without wanting to state the obvious that’s not something that can be solved overnight. Many facets of westernised society require careful forward planning. Considering the very very limited abilities of our previous government it’s not surprising our prison system is at crisis point though. A scandalous waste of money on the Rwanda scheme and providing very over generous support in the Covid years could have been spent on capital schemes for expansion of the prison accommodation

But as we know we’ve been let down by an incompetent government. So a short term quick fix?
Floating Barges?
Refurbish some of the vacant armed forces married quarters?
Conversion of some surplus office space?

I Accept its Not easy, not cheap and some premises might not be realistic

Accommodation is one thing. Staffing is quite another. As you say, there is no cheap or easy fix, leaving early release as the only viable option.