O/T Democracy

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

The problem with coming off the fence and backing remain is that whilst the Labour membership is Remain heavy, the leadership know that the Labour voters and public in general are split pretty much down the middle as are the Tories. Their stance has been Leave but with a reasonable Deal as main preference. I don't think they were far off backing the WA and it's in this area that I think that the Labour leadership would most like to be. If Johnson would turn away from the extremists in his own party and look to a deal that would get the backing of enough MPs, moderate Labour and Tory, to get it over the line, then this is surely the direction to head towards?

No offence intended, you ought to step out of your London bubble, so should Jeremy, Thornberry and the rest of the inner circle.
The heartlands up here, Rotherham Barnsley and Doncaster voted 3-1 to leave. Only one local MP has made her position clear ( Sarah Champion ) the rest have been very quiet.
Labour are playing a risky strategy, if they do lose the heartlands you can forget Labour for a long while.

[WanChaiMiller]

Now that is a compliment , unfortunately WanChai you are Jo Swinson !!!

It was meant as a compliment.

[WanChaiMiller]

Not sure I know Jo Swinson Animal. But take it that youre showing your nasty side.

[WanChaiMiller]

Oh ok, leader of Lib Dems

[KerrAvon]

The thing is that I am a really nice person - kind to animals and old ladies, doing quite a bit of free work - including for two charities, that sort of thing. I just can't help saying what I think though, which seems to upset people, particularly those who can't or won't see what a feckless **** Corbyn is.

The terms of endearment aren't working are they.

I really do like Jess Phillips. She is honest, which goes a long way in my books.

On a serious note, the internet has a lot to answer for; look at how quickly discussions on here become so personal, so quickly in a way that just wouldn't happen with a group of people sitting around over a few pints (or fruit based cocktails in WanChai's case - probably).

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

The thing is that I am a really nice person - kind to animals and old ladies, doing quite a bit of free work - including for two charities, that sort of thing. I just can't help saying what I think though, which seems to upset people, particularly those who can't or won't see what a feckless **** Corbyn is.

The terms of endearment aren't working are they.

I really do like Jess Phillips. She is honest, which goes a long way in my books.

Terms of endearment are always worthwhile, much better than ranting and raving and losing the debate.
Yes Jess Phillips does come across as honest.

Now that is a compliment , unfortunately WanChai you are Jo Swinson !!!

Jo Swinson is spoken for animal...
Put it this way if it was Bojo, Jeremy or Jo Jo I would rather get into bed with JS....any port in a storm as they say...😂

[great_fire]

No offence intended, you ought to step out of your London bubble, so should Jeremy, Thornberry and the rest of the inner circle.
The heartlands up here, Rotherham Barnsley and Doncaster voted 3-1 to leave. Only one local MP has made her position clear ( Sarah Champion ) the rest have been very quiet.

They all say they don't want to leave without a deal.

Maybe they're genuine, but I believe most MPs who say that actually just want to cancel Brexit altogether.

[Silly-miller]

Lol. When were you last a Labour voter Fire? Ed Milliband float yer boat? Brown? Blair?

Come on, since Blair you would not touch Labour with a barge pole and would feel the same whatever leader, left or centre left was in chargre. Don't try and kid us its all about Corbyn!

Absolutely I think anyone saying they don’t like labour because of Corbyn is talking crazy, his own party has turned its back on the people just like Lib Dem’s did. There’s a pattern here people oh we are for working class and always will be.. years later they fight for power in London forgetting us

For the few and not the many

[BigLadonOS]

I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front not the back.

Jess Phillips two faced. About 1 minute in.

[KerrAvon]

That's not two faced, biggie . It's exactly the opposite. Corbyn might actually get somewhere if he listened to the likes of her instead of surrounding himself with political clones and a load of Student Union debating society sycophants.