O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[WanChaiMiller]

Spain was a dictatorship until Franco died in 1975, the economy improved after that when they became more open to trade and tourism, they didn't join the EU until 1986.

The big jump in Spains gdp is after they joined the EU in '86

1976 -£117b
1984 - £171b
1986 - £250b
1995 - £613b
2008 - £1.63trillion

[MillerBill]

The big jump in Spains gdp is after they joined the EU in '86

1976 -£117b
1984 - £171b
1986 - £250b
1995 - £613b
2008 - £1.63trillion

The latest figure as at June 2018 of the unemployment figures for under 25 year olds in Spain is a disgraceful 35.54%. You quote a figure of over 10 years ago,my figures are up to date and accurate.Well done EU !!!!!

[gm_gm]

The big jump in Spains gdp is after they joined the EU in '86

1976 -£117b
1984 - £171b
1986 - £250b
1995 - £613b
2008 - £1.63trillion

built on unsustainable property development and massively increasing costs, some bills have gone up nearly ten fold since 1995

[great_fire]

The big jump in Spains gdp is after they joined the EU in '86

1976 -£117b
1984 - £171b
1986 - £250b
1995 - £613b
2008 - £1.63trillion

EEC/EC did shovel them and Portugal money, just like they do with Eastern European countries now.

Think they're basically bribes to make them pro-EU and keep the globalisation "project" going.

[WanChaiMiller]

The latest figure as at June 2018 of the unemployment figures for under 25 year olds in Spain is a disgraceful 35.54%. You quote a figure of over 10 years ago,my figures are up to date and accurate.Well done EU !!!!!

Dont mind you chipping in but please keep it on message. I cant see how you can be critical of my figures on gdp through a period that was under discussion and you are quoting youth unemployment.

[MillerBill]

I can understand why you don't want to talk about those shocking statistics.We all remember the lies pre referendum that remainers were telling everyone "think about our children".How dis-honest they were knowing, throughout a lot of EU countries ,there was mass unemployment for the young.It was really criminal coming out with lies like that.

[WanChaiMiller]

I can understand why you don't want to talk about those shocking statistics.We all remember the lies pre referendum that remainers were telling everyone "think about our children".How dis-honest they were knowing, throughout a lot of EU countries ,there was mass unemployment for the young.It was really criminal coming out with lies like that.

Happy to talk about it and absoluty shocking as its personal tragedy and a lost generation. Just odd that you linked to my post above.

I can see Spain youth unemployment was 18% in 2007, just above the EU average. It rose dramatically after the credit crunch recession of 2008 (which we all know started in the US banking system). By 2013 it rose to 50%, over double the EU average.

My question is why the credit crunch hit the youth of Spain in particular & so serverely? I wonder why you think its all down to the EU? I'd ask why you think Spain would have faired better in this period as an independent country?

[WanChaiMiller]

built on unsustainable property development and massively increasing costs, some bills have gone up nearly ten fold since 1995

Agreee with you. But I answering the question Great Fire posed.

[rolymiller]

Thought I'd resurrect this for the biggy vote toneet. Seems to have drifted down the board a bit. Is it because we had a small matter of a game with Man C, a poor run of form or just people are pissed off with it?

We all know its gonna get soundly rejected toneet but i aint a clue what will happen next. My only guess is that article 50 will be extended and we will play for more time to get a solution. (God knows how much more that will cost us). So this thread is likely to run even longer...

Also a bit pissed off that this vote has not already been taken by now. Nothing has changed since the last cancellation. I watched parliament live yesterday (yes, I have a sad life) and it was like a repeat of the last time a vote was due. Same old questions and the same old answers. Got me thinking that MPS are pretty thick really if they expect any different answers to their questions. All May has done has taken the ball into the corner flag put her foot on it and prayed for the final whistle. The woman is loopy beyond repair.

[Stovicmiller]

All these arguments on this thread have we forgot a people's vote happened over two years ago and it was a vote to leave full stop. If our mps ignore that vote the trouble in Paris will be nothing compared to what will happen here. Even remain voters should be worried that our mps hold the general public in contempe. Sorry if I've spelt that wrong