O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[ramAnag]

How am I mischief making - merely pointing out that statistics can be twisted to say anything

By immediately personalising my comment about teachers and by making a facile comment about the safety of NHS workers. It’s what you always do when you’re bored or have nothing relevant to add.

[Geoff Parkstone]

By immediately personalising my comment about teachers and by making a facile comment about the safety of NHS workers. It’s what you always do when you’re bored or have nothing relevant to add.

My comment about NHS workers was not facile. Statistically, during lockdown one, the mortality rate amongst NHS workers was below average of those in work - ie excluding the vast numbers in retirement or care homes, but amongst those exposed via their employment.

As stated this was because despite being in an exposed position, it was postulated that this was due to the more safe environment. That was perceived wisdom at the time.

Same with teachers where R59 observed about the possibility that there was not the exposure that some (indeed including you) believed there to be.

My comment, that you can makes stats say anything, is, if anything sympathetic to your position, suggesting that the low risk R59 spoke of may be just another bent statistic.

I will remember "words of one syllable" in future

[ramAnag]

My comment about NHS workers was not facile. Statistically, during lockdown one, the mortality rate amongst NHS workers was below average of those in work - ie excluding the vast numbers in retirement or care homes, but amongst those exposed via their employment.

As stated this was because despite being in an exposed position, it was postulated that this was due to the more safe environment. That was perceived wisdom at the time.

Same with teachers where R59 observed about the possibility that there was not the exposure that some (indeed including you) believed there to be.

My comment, that you can makes stats say anything, is, if anything sympathetic to your position, suggesting that the low risk R59 spoke of may be just another bent statistic.

I will remember "words of one syllable" in future

But as ever, when you’re wearing your daft pedant head, you just make mischief.

You already know why it is essential that front line workers such as those in hospitals and schools should be vaccinated and you already know the reason why their figures are not as bad as they might be...because they are two of the professions that take PPE as seriously as it should be taken...and yet still you pontificate making no worthwhile point whatsoever.

Earlier this week you and I agreed how ridiculous it was that 400 folk saw fit to hire a school for a wedding reception in North London.
Why? Because having such a number of people in the confines of a school provided an obvious breeding ground for the transmission of the virus.
Yet here you are now somehow querying that teachers - who regularly work in schools with a great deal more than 400 others, and who are, as I explained, these days often stuck in a single room with 25-30 other individuals - deserve to be vaccinated before schools are reopened.

If you genuinely don’t recognise that teachers and frontline NHS workers are amongst those who need priority vaccinations then you probably will require ‘words of one syllable in future’.

[Geoff Parkstone]

But as ever, when you’re wearing your daft pedant head, you just make mischief.

You already know why it is essential that front line workers such as those in hospitals and schools should be vaccinated and you already know the reason why their figures are not as bad as they might be...because they are two of the professions that take PPE as seriously as it should be taken...and yet still you pontificate making no worthwhile point whatsoever.

Earlier this week you and I agreed how ridiculous it was that 400 folk saw fit to hire a school for a wedding reception in North London.
Why? Because having such a number of people in the confines of a school provided an obvious breeding ground for the transmission of the virus.
Yet here you are now somehow querying that teachers - who regularly work in schools with a great deal more than 400 others, and who are, as I explained, these days often stuck in a single room with 25-30 other individuals - deserve to be vaccinated before schools are reopened.

If you genuinely don’t recognise that teachers and frontline NHS workers are amongst those who need priority vaccinations then you probably will require ‘words of one syllable in future’.

I think you need to go back and read my first post and the one that preceded it again. it was not me that suggested that teachers were maybe not in as bad a scenario os you suggest. It was an ONS survey cited by R59. I merely added a further comment on some other questionable statistics id seen last year and posited that stats do not always represent "the truth"

[Geoff Parkstone]

Ah no there's some casual racism for you

[Trickytreesreds]

Ah no there's some casual racism for you

mostly non racist*

[Andy_Faber]

mostly non racist*

Yup he really cant help himself

[swaledale]

Yup he really cant help himself

I really would look up the definition of racist if I was you, because as before your completely and utterly wrong! Oh dear how silly can one be to repeat the same error more than once?

[Andy_Faber]

I really would look up the definition of racist if I was you, because as before your completely and utterly wrong! Oh dear how silly can one be to repeat the same error more than once?

Sorry Swale I have you on ignore

[swaledale]

Ah no there's some casual racism for you

Well I wasn't expecting you to take the bait and I thought you might have better command of the English language than that, but then maybe you can explain how a white person can be racist against another white person or people?