OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Andy_Faber]

Going back to the advert, the other thing that caught my eye as well, was where they were asking for these landlords.

North west England/Midlands/East of England.

The same places that are already holding the most asylum seekers in the country.
The south is avoided of course. But where is Wales/Scotland/N.Ireland on that list?

Something fishy going on thats for sure and I don't mean quotas

Listen to Radio 4 PM on BBC sounds, 22/03/2022 from 35 mins. the govt policy MAY ruin some seaside resort economies - I can't speak for Skegness as I've only spent an hour there in the past decade, but I CAN speak for Gt Yarmouth which I've visited regularly for 13 years. A previously happy place is now bloody scary to be in beyond the seafront itself, at thats for me a bloke, God knows how it feels for families. Things aren't helped by there being little work for the indigenous population forget a demographic that 'don't present well', don't speak good English etc. Note for those who kick off when Iposts observations like this, I'm lnocking govt policy not immigrants

[Geoff Parkstone]

Listen to Radio 4 PM on BBC sounds, 22/03/2022 from 35 mins. the govt policy MAY ruin some seaside resort economies - I can't speak for Skegness as I've only spent an hour there in the past decade, but I CAN speak for Gt Yarmouth which I've visited regularly for 13 years. A previously happy place is now bloody scary to be in beyond the seafront itself, at thats for me a bloke, God knows how it feels for families. Things aren't helped by there being little work for the indigenous population forget a demographic that 'don't present well', don't speak good English etc. Note for those who kick off when Iposts observations like this, I'm lnocking govt policy not immigrants

So what alternatives are there? I guess you could spread the incomers out over a greater area to dilute their impact on the indigenous population but wherever they go, the vast majority of residents won't want them for the reasons you point out and more. Camps or guesthouses/hotels will all create ghettos by definition. Its like Leicester or Bradford or Luton during the east indian immigration waves of the 60s and 70s, but without the skinheads - yet.

It takes years, if not generations, for new groups of people to become assimilated: but is that a reason not to act with compassion as a nation even if, by and large, as individuals we do not share that aspiration?

[ramAnag]

I'm not sure that's consistent with your view that people should have a right to protest. Protests come in many forms

I’m not sure I remember commenting on the ‘right to protest’, however voting in favour of something on the basis of something else which has absolutely nothing to do with it, is surely just plain stupid and the complete waste of a vote.

[Andy_Faber]

So what alternatives are there? I guess you could spread the incomers out over a greater area to dilute their impact on the indigenous population but wherever they go, the vast majority of residents won't want them for the reasons you point out and more. Camps or guesthouses/hotels will all create ghettos by definition. Its like Leicester or Bradford or Luton during the east indian immigration waves of the 60s and 70s, but without the skinheads - yet.

It takes years, if not generations, for new groups of people to become assimilated: but is that a reason not to act with compassion as a nation even if, by and large, as individuals we do not share that aspiration?

My personal opinion? Spread them as thinly as possible with 'friendly' folk - there are some about, we've had a Syrian refugee staying with us until last week, not a problem with my family or my neighbours.

IMO congregating them in one place is a disastrous policy, and I say that from both viewpoints - I've been an expat in a community of expats (briefly) and it does nothing but build up tensions with the established community

Edit: Just for confirmation, the above is a fact, I'm aware that some here don't believe any of the anecdotes I offer

[Andy_Faber]

I’m not sure I remember commenting on the ‘right to protest’, however voting in favour of something on the basis of something else which has absolutely nothing to do with it, is surely just plain stupid and the complete waste of a vote.

It achieved the same end as your admirable relighting of this thread has done, it 'sparked the debate' as the media put it. You've used this forum as a platform for your opinions, why deny Bert and Harriet from Acacia Avenue from the same?

[Geoff Parkstone]

Because other people's opinions do not accord with the Duprass opinion and therefore must be muzzled or suppressed

[ramAnag]

It achieved the same end as your admirable relighting of this thread has done, it 'sparked the debate' as the media put it. You've used this forum as a platform for your opinions, why deny Bert and Harriet from Acacia Avenue from the same?

How and when am I responsible for ‘relighting the thread’ and how have I ‘used the forum as a platform for my opinions’ any more than any other of the regular posters? It’s a forum...a place to exchange views and opinions.

‘Bert and Harriet’, whoever they may be, are of course entitled to their opinion...but voting for Brexit on the basis that you oppose immigration from elsewhere in the world other than Europe makes no sense at all to me.

[Trickytreesreds]

My personal opinion? Spread them as thinly as possible with 'friendly' folk - there are some about, we've had a Syrian refugee staying with us until last week, not a problem with my family or my neighbours.

IMO congregating them in one place is a disastrous policy, and I say that from both viewpoints - I've been an expat in a community of expats (briefly) and it does nothing but build up tensions with the established community

Edit: Just for confirmation, the above is a fact, I'm aware that some here don't believe any of the anecdotes I offer

You need your ears syringing. Your lodgers name was Myriam not Syrian.

[Geoff Parkstone]

You need your ears syringing. Your lodgers name was Myriam not Syrian.

Fares comment, TTR, but she is Lebanese not Syrian

[Trickytreesreds]

How and when am I responsible for ‘relighting the thread’ and how have I ‘used the forum as a platform for my opinions’ any more than any other of the regular posters? It’s a forum...a place to exchange views and opinions.

‘Bert and Harriet’, whoever they may be, are of course entitled to their opinion...but voting for Brexit on the basis that you oppose immigration from elsewhere in the world other than Europe makes no sense at all to me.

That doesn't wash with me either.
Every Brexit voter I know, wanted immigration controlled, not stopped.
Their point about the EU was that, you can upsticks, move somewhere else and cream that countries social systems the same as a native.
We as a country, gave eastern europe, that very license first, whilst everyone else did it slowly and cautiously.
Disaster for many communities ensued.

As for the rest of the world.
Their point about the rest of the world, was that it was significantly harder for a non EU citizen with skills to get access to the country, especially with EU private monopoly on internal markets.
So a Romanian gypsy, with the literacy of a 5 year old, can walk into the UK but a jet engine fitter has to jump through mountains of hoops.

Turns out, we forgot that British politicians have the spine of a jelly fish and as much respect for peoples wishes, as Stalin had for political rivals.