The Official Everton v West Ham United Match Thread

[ImTopMan]

The Spurs fans are fuming with West Ham right now.

With them in and around Everton in the table, the Tottenham lads I know was desperate for you to get a result up at Goodison today.

[JimmyV66]

The Spurs fans are fuming with West Ham right now.

With them in and around Everton in the table, the Tottenham lads I know was desperate for you to get a result up at Goodison today.

They should know better, we could play Everton with 2 goal keepers and 3 extra players and a 1 goal head start and still never beat them.

[JimmyV66]

Mate asked me tonight just how bad our record is against Everton. We both knew it was poor so i checked. Having checked poor would be to kind a word to use. It really is shocking.

Since 1987 we have played Everton 45 times. 7 wins.

Oddily enough we have also only beaten Liverpool 7 times in our last 45 games.

So against the two big merseyside clubs. 14 wins from 90 games.


No wonder they are always the fixtures i least look forward to.

[Lineker57apps40goals]

Mate asked me tonight just how bad our record is against Everton. We both knew it was poor so i checked. Having checked poor would be to kind a word to use. It really is shocking.

Since 1987 we have played Everton 45 times. 7 wins.

Oddily enough we have also only beaten Liverpool 7 times in our last 45 games.

So against the two big merseyside clubs. 14 wins from 90 games.


No wonder they are always the fixtures i least look forward to.

As an Everton fan I well know we are one of your bogey sides. We do have a boss record against the Hammers since I was took to my first Everton game in 1983 as a then naive 7 year old.

But, to be fair, the biggest game between our clubs during this period you lot won. The 1991 FA Cup quarter final, my first ever visit to the Boleyn. A game many blues still have nightmares about!

Stuart f**king Slater.

[Warwick4370]

Seriously, what's the point of getting up at all hours to watch us try not to lose, thinking we can bank on our luck.

25% possession... well if that's the way we play then so be it, but at least when we have the ball could we please look like we know what to do with it, it's way too predictable, and looks awful. Why no plan or a plan A with more than one method...?

No adventure, little play except ineffective hoof balls, against a team that really wash't much better than ours on paper, or for that matter, on the pitch.

I'm glad I'm not paying to go and watch games, when the 'entertainment' is so poor

[palerider]

As Whiskyman said, if I wasn't a West Ham supporter I wouldn't pay to watch them. Actually I don't anyway, not under Allardyce, but you see the point.

Premiership survival is now the be all and end all and it's really sad that in this league of two seperate leagues, to achieve that end is considered a succesful season. A symptom of that is our players doing a lap of honour last May for finishing tenth.

But it is what it is and we are what we are. 10 minutes or so from another point but against the better sides if you set your stool out to not concede but have no threat yourselves you'll get lucky very occasionally as we did at the Bridge, but yesterday we didn't.

Sky is to blame and managers like Allardyce and Pulis love it. It means permanent employment as the ludicrous amounts of money thrown at the Premier League mean to hell with the cups, let's aim for tenth.

Maybe, just maybe when the Olympic Stadium is our new home, things may be different but even then dismantling a side ge

[mikeveep]

Palerider. " dismantling a side geared up for survival and no more will require big investment and probably an uncomfortable transition period"


This is not so.

The whole back unit including Noble is in place for any system. The wide midfielders will be Ok in a less demanding defensive role, as will the striker.

All that's necessary to convert to a more balanced team is the purchase of two or three all round central midfielders, who can bring the ball out of defence with a bit of pace and pass to/interpass with the attack.

No great re-structuring necessary.

[rednekst]

Palerider,

Okay we were under bombardment for much of the game...all same same at Chelsea as well. But we were beaten by one mishap in the defence and a referee being blind again.

Barry should have been sent off in the first half for hauling Nolan rearwards...but referee this time favored the home side.

As for the ' WTF ' goal...well if you really watch there was no one paying any attention to him from nearer than five yards.

So this 'massive' restructuring is a mere figment of your very one sided imagination really.

Just onward's and upwards for the rest of the season.

Give over with the dodgy comments please

[Whiskyman]

[quote="mikeveep"


This is not so.

The whole back unit including Noble is in place for any system. The wide midfielders will be Ok in a less demanding defensive role, as will the striker.

All that's necessary to convert to a more balanced team is the purchase of two or three all round central midfielders, who can bring the ball out of defence with a bit of pace and pass to/interpass with the attack.

No great re-structuring necessary.[/quote]

Not too sure about that Mike. Imo you are spot on about us requiring midfielders with pace and, as you say, a minimum of 2, but ideally 3, are needed.

We also need a quality LB and a proven goalscorer (or two). Unfortunately knowing what we need and having the necessary funds to bring these players in are two different things.

The whole structure of our team at present is

[mikeveep]

I am not looking to necessarily improve our overall position..lower mid table..that WOULD take a fortune.

Any upgrading of Full backs or strikers is desirable under any system, but wouldn't be necessary for the purposes of changing to a more attacking approach.

Just replace the "specialist"midfielders we have and replace with all-rounders.

"Lumping" would be eliminated as soon as the midfield's ability improves.