o/t Does anyone seriously believe Corbyn is an anti-semite?

[animallittle3]

The whole point of the Labour movement is to stand up for working people , fight exploitation and fight for a greater share of the spoils .

That under Corbyn is where the fight is , now people can point to this , that and whatever , he said this , he did that and met with whoever .

Fine but let's not get sidelined by where the real fight really lies today .

In my lifetime I've never encountered such a campaign against a Labour leader , my gut instinct tells me he's more than on to something and poweful self interested people don't care for it .

I could name many flaws within the conservative leadership past and present but that doesn't appear to grab the headlines as much , who exactly was in charge of the home office when the Windrush project started ? and that's only the tip of a very large iceberg .

A remarkable tactic is getting played out here , which isn't to say it couldn't have been handled better but it's a deflective policy from a party and associates that ain't that great themselves if the truth be told when it comes to racism and equality .


Why did a old leftie back bencher from Islington ever become leader of a real player in UK politics .

The reasons for that tell us where we are as a nation .

It aint working chaps for far too many people , it would be acceptable to see that addressed by the centre ground and we can all vote accordingly .

Me neither .

[KerrAvon]

The whole point of the Labour movement is to stand up for working people , fight exploitation and fight for a greater share of the spoils .

That under Corbyn is where the fight is , now people can point to this , that and whatever , he said this , he did that and met with whoever .

Fine but let's not get sidelined by where the real fight really lies today .

In my lifetime I've never encountered such a campaign against a Labour leader , my gut instinct tells me he's more than on to something and poweful self interested people don't care for it .

I could name many flaws within the conservative leadership past and present but that doesn't appear to grab the headlines as much , who exactly was in charge of the home office when the Windrush project started ? and that's only the tip of a very large iceberg .

A remarkable tactic is getting played out here , which isn't to say it couldn't have been handled better but it's a deflective policy from a party and associates that ain't that great themselves if the truth be told when it comes to racism and equality .


Why did a old leftie back bencher from Islington ever become leader of a real player in UK politics .

The reasons for that tell us where we are as a nation .

It aint working chaps for far too many people , it would be acceptable to see that addressed by the centre ground and we can all vote accordingly .

Me neither .

The Tories are reasonably centrist, animal, although not as much so as when Cameron was at the helm. Should May fall, I think you will see the party move to the right. If the Tories don't float your boat - and I don't think they do- the Lib Dems are centre left, but are still tainted in the minds of their natural support through their coalition with the Tories.

I think your only hope for another centrist option is if Momentum continue to behave as they are doing such as to persuade enough Labour MPs to give up the Labour whip and think about doing another SDP.

[nakedtruth]

Maybe the anti semitism furore is a bit of a sideshow when the bottom dollar is that a big chunk of the uk population doesn’t think JC is up to the task of leading the country and also that his potential chancellor would ruin us.

This current government is a busted flush but with JC being around for so long folks reckon he would be an even worse option.

[KerrAvon]

Maybe the anti semitism furore is a bit of a sideshow when the bottom dollar is that a big chunk of the uk population doesn’t think JC is up to the task of leading the country and also that his potential chancellor would ruin us.

This current government is a busted flush but with JC being around for so long folks reckon he would be an even worse option.

I suspect that a lot of the population don't attach much weight to the antisemitism issue in itself, but the chaos and inability of Labour to effectively deal with it has harmed them.

[sickly_child]

In answer to the original question no I don't.

[monty_rhodes]

In answer to the original question no I don't.

Hi, sickly. You been away again? I don't think in the great scheme of things it matters much. Europe is moving to the right.

[sickly_child]

Not looking too smart, but hope springs eternal. I sent you a message on the ot ot thread.

[sickly_child]

currently experiencing a swarm of small earthquakes here about 4 in the last hour. not too bad but the house a shaking, a little unnerving.

[monty_rhodes]

currently experiencing a swarm of small earthquakes here about 4 in the last hour. not too bad but the house a shaking, a little unnerving.

I bet! I will look out for your message - nothing rude, I hope!

[monty_rhodes]

I think the situation is fundamentally different from Ireland for a number of reasons. I think that rather than a meaningful peace we will see war in the Middle East quite possibly involving nuclear weapons. No one wants peace, no one has any clear idea of what peace would look like or entail and no one has the ability or will to make the necessary concessions. As to the OP I have changed my mind; I think Corbyn probably is antisemitic and as such is following a tradition of the British left going back to the nineteenth century.