O/T The meaningful vote.

[Exiletyke]

Not sure they would extend that long. EU elections on May 23rd, and they may want it resolved before then. But, you never know. I don't think a second referendum would resolve anything. What happens if the result is the same? I think we can all agree it is a mess

Why
All the time it's extended we're still in & paying so why wouldn't they?
Bear in mind EU want us to remain so in that time project fear can gain ground
Yes I think we can all agree it's a mess but in my opimion it's a deliberate mess for a reason

[animallittle3]

Tha right there lad we have had 8 years of austerity workers rights slashed and zero hours contracts becoming the norm food banks at a all time high.
laughable to think its the fault of the EU and listening to all the right wing media and the far right torys and the worst of all workingclass torys its all Mr Corbins fault.

The EU are complicate in agency and ZHC workers Mr C because they create the conditions with free movement of labour for these practices to prosper .

I don't seem to remember agencies and ZHC workers before the borders were opened at least at the numbers we see today .

You seem to think the EU is on your side , you couldn't be more wrong in my opinion , the EU is on the side of free market capitalism and globalisation .

One of a number of reasons wages and working opportunities for the working class have stagnated Mr C .

If you have an abundance of cheap labour wages decline , it's basic economics mi owd .

[upthecolliers]

The EU are complicate in agency and ZHC workers Mr C because they create the conditions with free movement of labour for these practices to prosper .

I don't seem to remember agencies and ZHC workers before the borders were opened at least at the numbers we see today .

You seem to think the EU is on your side , you couldn't be more wrong in my opinion , the EU is on the side of free market capitalism and globalisation .

One of a number of reasons wages and working opportunities for the working class have stagnated Mr C .

If you have an abundance of cheap labour wages decline , it's basic economics mi owd .

Animal i can not disagree with you on most of these points but we must have labour in the country especially in the NHS and in catering and farming of which comes under the govenments £33,000 per year wage cap

[animallittle3]

Exile we are a sovereign country. If the EU "club" interfered into a sovereign country it would be tantamount to invation but i think you really knew that and was just trying to be a bit mischievous. the only way to stop the said things pertaining is to have general election and vote out this govenment.

I wouldn't be so sure Labour would win if an election came relatively quickly Mr C .

At best the biggest party but without a majority .

This is possibly the worst tory government in history and yet he's trailing the tories by 5% .

Corbyn's done well to bring the party back to what it was originally founded to do but that's as far as it goes in my honest opinion .

To have a majority labour government he needs to step aside .

A 1997 Tony Blair to the left of him would trounce these feckers to some tune , 100 seat majority minimum .

Right mandate wrong face delivering it mi owd .

[Nozzer1953]

Labour are 2 points ahead according to Survation, the only poll company to get the referendum result and general election correct

[upthecolliers]

[QUOTE=animallittle3;39117011]I wouldn't be so sure Labour would win if an election came relatively quickly Mr C .

At best the biggest party but without a majority .

This is possibly the worst tory government in history and yet he's trailing the tories by 5% .

Corbyn's done well to bring the party back to what it was originally founded to do but that's as far as it goes in my honest opinion .

To have a majority labour government he needs to step aside .

A 1997 Tony Blair to the left of him would trounce these feckers to some tune , 100 seat majority minimum .

Right mandate wrong face delivering it mi owd .[/QUOTE

Animal remember 2017 general election labour were expected to lose by over 100 seats and were 20 points down in the polls and what came about a hung parliment. a devastating blow to the Torys, who got a right hammering, there only policy now is to call Mr Corbyn any thing from a racist to a terroist, and some people believe it hope you are not one Animal keep the faith.

[KerrAvon]

I wouldn't be so sure Labour would win if an election came relatively quickly Mr C .

At best the biggest party but without a majority .

This is possibly the worst tory government in history and yet he's trailing the tories by 5% .

Corbyn's done well to bring the party back to what it was originally founded to do but that's as far as it goes in my honest opinion .

To have a majority labour government he needs to step aside .

A 1997 Tony Blair to the left of him would trounce these feckers to some tune , 100 seat majority minimum .

Right mandate wrong face delivering it mi owd .

Like Saul on the road to Damascus, the scales are slowly falling from animal’s eyes in respect of Corbett.

How long before you get to the point where you are able to recognise that the policies are wrong too?

[animallittle3]

Labour are 2 points ahead according to Survation, the only poll company to get the referendum result and general election correct

Yes I'll accept that Nozzer , but even a two point lead THIS WEEK isn't really acceptable to me given the PM has had a no confidence vote within her own ranks to face and the biggest hiding ever in parliament by a government over her flag ship policy .

Bear in mind also the tories have only enjoyed one majority government since the early 90's and the present PM through that away within two years .

They are a party in decline .


I think Corbyn's done a tremendous job but it falls short of where we need to be , otherwise the tories will sneak in aided by either the Lib Dems or the DUP .

Only my opinion and not necessarily the view of many within the rank and file .

[animallittle3]

[QUOTE=upthecolliers;39117029]

I wouldn't be so sure Labour would win if an election came relatively quickly Mr C .

At best the biggest party but without a majority .

This is possibly the worst tory government in history and yet he's trailing the tories by 5% .

Corbyn's done well to bring the party back to what it was originally founded to do but that's as far as it goes in my honest opinion .

To have a majority labour government he needs to step aside .

A 1997 Tony Blair to the left of him would trounce these feckers to some tune , 100 seat majority minimum .

Right mandate wrong face delivering it mi owd .[/QUOTE

Animal remember 2017 general election labour were expected to lose by over 100 seats and were 20 points down in the polls and what came about a hung parliment. a devastating blow to the Torys, who got a right hammering, there only policy now is to call Mr Corbyn any thing from a racist to a terroist, and some people believe it hope you are not one Animal keep the faith.

Mr C with all the best will in the world I'd like to see a Labour goverment that is the true representative of the working class .

I'm also a realist , we need a Labour government now possibly more than ever .

That means compromise Colliers , not the Blair type sell out but somewhere in between .

I'm desperately trying to change hearts and minds so we can get rid of this government but I'm not convinced we have the right man at this time .

He's done himself no favours at all by declining the PM's invitation for talks on brexit .

Massive error in my opinion , he doesn't even have to agree on one single thing , all he has to do is walk through the door .

Now he's our of the picture full stop and the leader of the opposition .

You can't make basic errors like that when the stakes are so high because they will now take the moral high ground and use it against him .

[Exiletyke]

Couldn't agree more Animal
He's certainly done himself no favours
Probably the biggest error he could make
Does anyone advise him ? or perhaps they do