O/T Even the Tory Party are Blaming Johnson!

[swaledale]

Our respective traffic on this thread suggests who has a life and who doesn’t. You’re starting to come over like TTR

Mm I know the games you play so won't rise to the bait. Having a self professed "hobby horse" about diversity in the way that you do is rather strange, but its not hard to read between the lines on your posts.

As for my traffic on this Forum, it all depends on where i am and what I'm doing but I must realise that in the Kingdom of the Blind the one eyed man is king and no matter how many actual facts one produces, it won't change a thing.

[AdiSalisbury]

Agree with that (if it’s like for like roles) apart from it should be quicker!

The pay gap isn't like for like roles though, a common misconception, it's basically average pay versus average pay.

So if you invest in 100 BAME apprentices, you widen the gap, as they bring the average pay down for that group, even though it's a positive discrimination. The pay gap is a reflection of representation through to senior levels, rather than equal pay (with a few exceptions).

[swaledale]

The pay gap isn't like for like roles though, a common misconception, it's basically average pay versus average pay.

So if you invest in 100 BAME apprentices, you widen the gap, as they bring the average pay down for that group, even though it's a positive discrimination. The pay gap is a reflection of representation through to senior levels, rather than equal pay (with a few exceptions).

You have hit the nail on the head! Pay gaps are a notoriously clumsy tool to measure equality on its own. One needs to take a range of measures, including the composition of the workforce, comparison of similar roles etc etc. in order to get a true picture.

Thats not to say there isn't merit in ensuring that the way an organisation recruits and rewards staff is fair and equitable, just that a simple statistical measurement is not sufficient.

[mistaram]

Agree with that (if it’s like for like roles) apart from it should be quicker!

Just pointing out to Tricky that private companies have the same problems that the BBC have .But it doesn't suit his ( I hate the BBC because they are nasty to Boris ) agenda

[Andy_Faber]

Just pointing out to Tricky that private companies have the same problems that the BBC have .But it doesn't suit his ( I hate the BBC because they are nasty to Boris ) agenda

No argument there, but I expect better of BBC

[ramAnag]

Wasting your time, Swale...and mista. Capt. YouTube is back and in full flight ruining the forum again, and all over something that costs those who can afford it the princely sum of 43p per day.

I’m not sure what else one can buy for that sort of money and his point about the ‘stupid beauty of the BBC’ is completely flawed...as exactly the same is true of Sky where recorded ‘highlights’ or even whole programmes can often be seen later for ‘free’...on the BBC.

In comparison to that 43p per day for intelligent news coverage, local programmes, excellent radio and moronic advert free viewing, my Sky package costs around £3 per day!
My choice, I’m not complaining and if I don’t like it the answer is simple, but 43p per day for all that the BBC provides...I’m struggling to think of anything else that provides such good value for money.

Suggest we stop allowing ourselves to be deflected (again) and return to the original topic.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Can they, legally, curb big lugs social media activity? Freedom of speech and all that gubbins.......

How does Lineker's advertising revenue from Walker's contradict the BBC's conflict of interest policy (if they have one)?

It is possible that, in pursuit of diversification, the BBC may enter the salted snack production market? No, not diversity Tricky 😉

More likely that for an organisation that eschews advertising (with the exception of more and more self publicity) the involvement of high paid presenters in high paid advertising roles may be inconsistent.

Also the all too familiar "witty" product placement comments - followed by a fatuous "other products are available" would seem to conflict with being given public money.

Other than that, I'm not sure...

[AdiSalisbury]

Can they, legally, curb big lugs social media activity? Freedom of speech and all that gubbins.......

How does Lineker's advertising revenue from Walker's contradict the BBC's conflict of interest policy (if they have one)?

They can discipline him if his actions are perceived as bringing them into disrepute. You'd hope that a leading media company would have some kind of acceptable social media usage policy & training.

[mistaram]

Interesting piece
Most Watched News Channels In The World
TRENDrr.net/51797 publish date 28/08/20

1 BBC News
2 Fox News
3CNN
4Sky News
5NDTV (India)

Don't how I could have been so naive as to believe Tricky when he told me nobody watches the BBC

[mistaram]

Does anybody actually watch ITV any longer? Apart from the occasional time when they stump up to buy mainstream live sport, and reruns of old episodes of Family Guy on ITV 5 catchup +1,that is. The rest of its programming its unadulterated ****e now Jeremy Kyle has been axed - culminating in the appalling pulp called Downton Abbey.

Without central funding, this is what the BBC would become and,for all its faults, I still believe its better than what it would become with no licence fee. As for making pensioners pay, they are amongst the wealthiest sectors in the economy - if anyone should get it free, then it should be means tested for the needy, not based on the baseless assumption that old = poor

That's exactly what it is Geoff means tested ,you have to be on pension credit or you pay