Leeds United - v - Arsenal ***Matchday Thread***

[Ozwhites]

It was you that fecking started it in the first place . �� �� ��

Think you might have the wrong Oz there....

[ozleeds]

Think you might have the wrong Oz there....

Through me under the bus will you lol

[WTF11]

It was you that fecking started it in the first place . 😂 😂 😂

"Started"? Nah, that was BA!😉

[leedsutdman]

Think you might have the wrong Oz there....

Sorry mate I'm getting my whites and leeds mixed up.

[Billyni]

Let’s just face it.
As long as we have Bielsa, we’re never gonna pace ourselves and sneak 1 or win ugly.
We’re gonna go flat out hell for leather from the whistle. If it works, well and good, if it doesn’t wer fked.
Sure even our 0-0 draws are entertaining.
Personally I’d prefer a more measured approach with a bit of guile and craftyness but it’s not going to happen.
Not until Pep comes anyway

[whitestomper45]

There are plenty of coaches or managers out there who are doing a bloody good job
Ralph at Soton
NES at Wolves
Moyes at West Ham
Mourinho at Spurs may get a trophy
Lampard is doing well at Chelsea
Just a couple to mention
MB is doing his job that's all nothing else
Gets paid well had backing to get us up
Wolves leicester palace zero points is not world class performance from any manager
The press and Sky just get carried away in my view with MB hanging on a few words from pep and poch
Granted we play good football some say basketball football
But only my view you can pick flaws in his approach and buying policy
Everyone has a view
Mine is we should not go down
If we cannot finish above fulham WBA sheff utd Burnley newcastle We will be deserved relegation fodder

the clubs you mention have the benefit of squads with a number of years already in the PL building each season on PL budgets...Wolves, the newer of those mentioned have spent vast fortunes on their squad too. And possess the only manager I would even consider swapping with, but I much prefer MB already a Leeds icon.
Several of the current squad were incapable of putting in consistent Championship performances and now being competitive in the top flight with a style if football that has won many admirers. The squad is still very much a work in progress. They should all be judged at the end of this and more so at the end of next season.

[klix]

the clubs you mention have the benefit of squads with a number of years already in the PL building each season on PL budgets...Wolves, the newer of those mentioned have spent vast fortunes on their squad too. And possess the only manager I would even consider swapping with, but I much prefer MB already a Leeds icon.
Several of the current squad were incapable of putting in consistent Championship performances and now being competitive in the top flight with a style if football that has won many admirers. The squad is still very much a work in progress. They should all be judged at the end of this and more so at the end of next season.

Warnock took cardiff up from 17th to the prem with a bunch of camels

Wilder has done the same

NES took wolves up very quickly
They had zero money at the time
All I'm saying is the Bielsa over the top comments are a bit to much

How Bielsa is a icon is beyond belief, that's only in my eyes

If he stays a couple of years and wins something with us yes a icon status for some I could live with

He had done his job, remember he got out thought by Lampard against Derby. 2 0 up on aggregate and then a total cock up

Kevin Keegan is a god at newcastle because of his style at the time why I dont know he won zero

We all have a view that's life I just dont get the over the top comments surrounding MB
Yes he has won admirers that is a fact, but also some do ask, in his years and years of management what has he won.

[whitestomper45]

He said 3 - 4 points, not top. As with the likes of HO and his "you expect us to tear up the Prem" comment, and Mrs O with her comment about Histon, you exaggerate in order to give those who would disagree with the "sun shines out of MBs arse" mindset a kicking.

No, none of us expected us to be top, or tear up anything (You were somewhat aggrieved when I said we might not survive in a pre-season post, remember?). Scoring at the rate of 2 goals in four matches, (against less than stellar opposition), and very few in total (14 since seasons start), is inadequate, and no matter how beautiful our outfield play is, that must change or quite soon that faith amongst the players that Mrs O refers to will start to crumble.

If the scandalous VAR decisions had gone our way, we may already have those extra 3-4 points.. that after 9 games you are judging the club on.

[WTF11]

If the scandalous VAR decisions had gone our way, we may already have those extra 3-4 points.. that after 9 games you are judging the club on.

If this, if that, if the other, Leeds are no different from any other club in the PL in that respect, virtually every team has had a VAR shafting. Not the point, and not the point of the post, which was primarily concerned with our inability to score (and to do so without incurring the wrath of the great god VAR), and I would add to that our defensive weakness (only Fulham and Baggies have shipped more goals than us so far).

As for judging the club, at what point do you think it's legitimate to do so? 15 games, Christmas, after the mid-season transfer window? I suspect Bielsa is judging us after each and every game, from the first game to the last (and if he isn't, then he's not the god of football he is made out to be). Like I say, no-one expected us to be top, or tear up anywhere, but 9 games in and we have dropped from 5th to 14th in a month, and netted just twice in that time and conceded 8. What trend in that latter period is to be celebrated, no matter how wonderful the style of play?

I don't think I'm alone in suggesting we are a "one trick pony", and have been found out. Arsenal were as unlucky as we were (possibly moreso) not to go away with all three points on Sunday. Their finishing was appalling which is what cost them 2 points and gave us one.

We made Leicester look good and got run ragged by 34yr old Jamie Vardy, despite our acknowledged fitness levels. Against Palace we had no answer to Eze and Ayew. We will face other sides who will set themselves up do what both Leicester and Palace did, and we need a better answer than "more of the same" or more of the same will happen. Do I expect there to be any changes? Probably not (see my reply to Mrs O), but eventually they may be forced on us, no-one at the club is indispensible.

[whitestomper45]

If this, if that, if the other, Leeds are no different from any other club in the PL in that respect, virtually every team has had a VAR shafting. Not the point, and not the point of the post, which was primarily concerned with our inability to score (and to do so without incurring the wrath of the great god VAR), and I would add to that our defensive weakness (only Fulham and Baggies have shipped more goals than us so far).

As for judging the club, at what point do you think it's legitimate to do so? 15 games, Christmas, after the mid-season transfer window? I suspect Bielsa is judging us after each and every game, from the first game to the last (and if he isn't, then he's not the god of football he is made out to be). Like I say, no-one expected us to be top, or tear up anywhere, but 9 games in and we have dropped from 5th to 14th in a month, and netted just twice in that time and conceded 8. What trend in that latter period is to be celebrated, no matter how wonderful the style of play?

I don't think I'm alone in suggesting we are a "one trick pony", and have been found out. Arsenal were as unlucky as we were (possibly moreso) not to go away with all three points on Sunday. Their finishing was appalling which is what cost them 2 points and gave us one.

We made Leicester look good and got run ragged by 34yr old Jamie Vardy, despite our acknowledged fitness levels. Against Palace we had no answer to Eze and Ayew. We will face other sides who will set themselves up do what both Leicester and Palace did, and we need a better answer than "more of the same" or more of the same will happen. Do I expect there to be any changes? Probably not (see my reply to Mrs O), but eventually they may be forced on us, no-one at the club is indispensible.

Whatever you’re views I will be judging the team at the end of season... ie on his brief... to keep us up. (With the added benefit of entertaining) A club that is getting stronger both on and off the field. You cannot seriously be judging any team in this disjointed season to date. scum 10th Arsenal 11 and Citeh 12. Liverpool suddenly no longer miles clear... you think there is no connection with number of games individual players are making? The international breaks have added far more disruption and is badly impeding clubs supplying players to national teams.