Ok, not football at all, but it matters, eventually.

[Orgoner]

Agreed, but I suspect Oil workers are less likely.

Gasolineist!

[WTF11]

Gasolineist!

Nah, just realist. Petrol head till I die, Harley owner remember?

[spaldy]

EV’s have nothing to do with the environment. It’s 100% control. They can be shut off at any time by the government and obviously the limited range limits mobility of the masses.

Anyone who has been through a battery manufacturing knows that next to an electroplating operation there is nothing more nasty on the environment.

The other”minor issue” is that there is no way to recycle lithium ion batteries. Millions of tons of these batteries are coming off line in the next decade with no way to dispose of them. Our rulers know this. One thing is for sure. They won’t be stored anywhere near DC or London. They will end up in some rural area.

Internal combustion Car recycling is nearing 90%. Very little ends up up wasted. Glass and some olastics

It will be one of the greatest scams of a decade some huge one.

[ozleeds]

EV’s have nothing to do with the environment. It’s 100% control. They can be shut off at any time by the government and obviously the limited range limits mobility of the masses.

Anyone who has been through a battery manufacturing knows that next to an electroplating operation there is nothing more nasty on the environment.

The other”minor issue” is that there is no way to recycle lithium ion batteries. Millions of tons of these batteries are coming off line in the next decade with no way to dispose of them. Our rulers know this. One thing is for sure. They won’t be stored anywhere near DC or London. They will end up in some rural area.

Internal combustion Car recycling is nearing 90%. Very little ends up up wasted. Glass and some olastics

It will be one of the greatest scams of a decade some huge one.

No need to dispose of them as they explode and perish by themselves. I can imagine the world becoming the next HELL as there is going to be more red than green.

[Monaco_Totty]

About two-thirds (66%) of the voting eligible USA population turned out for the 2020 presidential election – the highest rate for any national election since 1900.

Stats sadly still show that older women often give deference to the presumed expertise of their husbands on politics & that men often reinforce that presumption & express their intensity with such so-called greater expertise.

One point that occupies my mind is could Republican turnout among women, especially older women, be partially explained by their husbands who are seen as wielding influence over the family vote ?

Too often i kept hearing & reading from elder French women that they were going to pay an emotional price with their families, friends & church if they didn’t continue to toe the line in recent French regional elections.

On the other hand younger female voters in France showed no such reliance on their male partners, family or friends with regard to recent political voting.
For me personally,Trump simply does not respect the freedom of women or the intelligence of women to make decisions about their own lives, end of.

Today i see CNN reporting that in the early voting more women had turned out to vote than men.
So am asking Spaldy, what ultimately is the "whole-turnout" to vote expected to be for what is an important election as you seem to be in the mix of organising vote casting procedures ?

[WTF11]

About two-thirds (66%) of the voting eligible USA population turned out for the 2020 presidential election – the highest rate for any national election since 1900.

Stats sadly still show that older women often give deference to the presumed expertise of their husbands on politics & that men often reinforce that presumption & express their intensity with such so-called greater expertise.

One point that occupies my mind is could Republican turnout among women, especially older women, be partially explained by their husbands who are seen as wielding influence over the family vote ?

Too often i kept hearing & reading from elder French women that they were going to pay an emotional price with their families, friends & church if they didn’t continue to toe the line in recent French regional elections.

On the other hand younger female voters in France showed no such reliance on their male partners, family or friends with regard to recent political voting.
For me personally,Trump simply does not respect the freedom of women or the intelligence of women to make decisions about their own lives, end of.

Today i see CNN reporting that in the early voting more women had turned out to vote than men.
So am asking Spaldy, what ultimately is the "whole-turnout" to vote expected to be for what is an important election as you seem to be in the mix of organising vote casting procedures ?

Unfortunately I suspect you are spot on and that despite the supposed advances in female emancipation in the States, the GOP section of the electorate as a whole, and the elders in particular, are rooted in the days of Hoover, Macarthyism and male dominated decision making. Kind of explains the latest threats made to women by Trump with his "I will do what I like to protect women, whether they like it or not" (his own words, from his mouth, no "editorialising").

[spaldy]

It will be a record turnout. Partly because of population growth but will also be a record turnout percentage wise as well. I wi not be surprised if close to 70%. Some areas wi be over 90%. Interestingly enough, we had 19 precincts in the US that had over 100% turnout. Obviously that’s impossible. All were in democrat areas. We also had over a 100 precincts with 100% vote for Biden. That’s virtually impossible. Even Kim jong and Xi don’t get 100% in precincts over 100 votes.

As an old dude with a 63 yr old wife I can assure you that anyone who thinks women take orders from their husband is deluded. The US does not track individual votes and no be knows who votes for who. It’s a cornerstone of our country. My wife might ask me for advice. My hot button is fiscal responsibility. I don’t think anyone has the right to leave the next generation in huge debt and liabilities. She thinks the same. After that she votes on her issues. I think this talking point is created by losers to act as cover for if they lose on poor policy.

[spaldy]

I think some posters on this thread have US women confused with some Middle East countries women. My guess is that for the few women that will vote as they are told by a man will be offset by the males told by their women who to vote for

[Monaco_Totty]

Must be hard to administer Electoral voting rolls as migrants to the UK from abroad were always under-registered in Electoral registers as in my knowledge there is no quantitative evidence on the extent of this gap, as barriers include lack of English language skills & lack of knowledge of the process of Elections overall.

Recently was told from a mate still working in the UK York electoral Registrar office that only 66% of private renters are registered due to a strong correlation with length of residence & registration plus the greater proportion of ethnic minorities & younger people who now are renting their homes, York has a population of 200,000 but the two-thirds figure is across the whole UK regions towns & cities

Stats say as many as 8 million people faced being disenfranchised at the last UK election due to it's antiquated Electoral registration system which is neither effective nor efficient apparently, currently.

As for me voting ?
Brexit scarred me for life & being a Brit now living in France & Europe i'm happy to be exiled.

To be honest i'm just happy to keep it real workwise with head down & lots of smiling during a shift & i've never joined a union either.
I avoid office politics, get organised, speak up about how i'm feeling health wise & if pi$$ed off do activities after work to get life back in perspective - so that way there's no time for moaning, so no going back to the darker side of my life again either.👍

[WTF11]

Must be hard to administer Electoral voting rolls as migrants to the UK from abroad were always under-registered in Electoral registers as in my knowledge there is no quantitative evidence on the extent of this gap, as barriers include lack of English language skills & lack of knowledge of the process of Elections overall.

Recently was told from a mate still working in the UK York electoral Registrar office that only 66% of private renters are registered due to a strong correlation with length of residence & registration plus the greater proportion of ethnic minorities & younger people who now are renting their homes, York has a population of 200,000 but the two-thirds figure is across the whole UK regions towns & cities

Stats say as many as 8 million people faced being disenfranchised at the last UK election due to it's antiquated Electoral registration system which is neither effective nor efficient apparently, currently.

As for me voting ?
Brexit scarred me for life & being a Brit now living in France & Europe i'm happy to be exiled.

To be honest i'm just happy to keep it real workwise with head down & lots of smiling during a shift & i've never joined a union either.
I avoid office politics, get organised, speak up about how i'm feeling health wise & if pi$$ed off do activities after work to get life back in perspective - so that way there's no time for moaning, so no going back to the darker side of my life again either.👍

"Stats as say".......exactly which stats? Migrants into the UK aren't entitled to vote unless and until their immigration status is confirmed, you would suggest it should be otherwise (I suspect there would be a degree of opposition in principle to such a change, here and most certainly in the (dis)United States of America.

And this level if supposed disenfranchisement is "due to it's antiquated Electoral registration system which is neither effective nor efficient apparently, currently". Says who?

Trump peddles lies and inaccurate street bev a use it suits his campaign of disinformation and confusion. I thought better of you, but the last post could have been penned by a Trump staffer wanting to diminish any criticism emanating from these shores.

You might not like what has happened in the UK since Brexit, but unlike the majority of those who've in this country you had the opportunity to exile yourself and took it. The majority are still here, still working, still going on hoiday ( here and abroad), still being educated from pre-school to University and beyond, still having their ills addressed by the NHS, still being cared for in their twilight years. We may not be all you would want, but we are what we need to be and compared to the French you seem to prefer I'll take Brits (of all creeds and colours), any day.