Hearts legal action

[Arabiatta]

Yes, they can if its a No vote.

Fair enough then, I saw Peters post but thought he was taking the michael. Thanks that does swing things for me more.

[Arabknight]

[QUOTE=Arabiatta;39537801]Realise this, however, The main thing to come out of the court case was full disclosure of documents and phone\email\whatsapp messages etc. What's not clear from deloitte report is if they had all of these. Would assume the court has power of the court to get these from for example from Facebook (owners of whatsapp).

Big thing is can Dundee legally withdraw and change the vote.

“Deloitte's examination of phone records, mobile communications (including texts) and email data has identified no evidence of improper behaviour by SPFL personnel concerning the submission of the Dundee FC vote”

The investigation by Deloitte appears to be quite comprehensive. Dnt think they wld have made a half arsed attempt with the rangers demanding full disclosure. The quicker we get this over and done with the quicker we can start getting on with the new season.

[Arabiatta]

[QUOTE=Arabknight;39537833]

Realise this, however, The main thing to come out of the court case was full disclosure of documents and phone\email\whatsapp messages etc. What's not clear from deloitte report is if they had all of these. Would assume the court has power of the court to get these from for example from Facebook (owners of whatsapp).

Big thing is can Dundee legally withdraw and change the vote.

“Deloitte's examination of phone records, mobile communications (including texts) and email data has identified no evidence of improper behaviour by SPFL personnel concerning the submission of the Dundee FC vote”

The investigation by Deloitte appears to be quite comprehensive. Dnt think they wld have made a half arsed attempt with the rangers demanding full disclosure. The quicker we get this over and done with the quicker we can start getting on with the new season.

Tbh I have no idea what powers the court has over a forensic accountancy firm. The problem is always who pays the bill in regards to independent review. The Rangers wanted a further forensic report and offered to pay, that was then voted down.

[LSArab]

One thing I’ve never seen answered is suggestion that the No vote didn’t matter anyway - it was only yes votes that mattered and teams could change their mind under the SFA articles. The Friday deadline they put on it wasn’t real deadline either as the dundee delay showed.

Don’t know if that is right but that’s what was discussed on here at the time.

Hopefully hearts haven’t got a chance and our long overdue promotion is confirmed this week 🙏🤞

[GUNBOAT]

One thing I’ve never seen answered is suggestion that the No vote didn’t matter anyway - it was only yes votes that mattered and teams could change their mind under the SFA articles. The Friday deadline they put on it wasn’t real deadline either as the dundee delay showed.

Don’t know if that is right but that’s what was discussed on here at the time.

Hopefully hearts haven’t got a chance and our long overdue promotion is confirmed this week ����

This is where posters get mixed up,the original vote had nothing to do with the SFA it was an SPFL matter.The 42 club's were requested to vote by the Friday at 5PM but actually had 28 days to submit their vote.

Dundee FC's lost vote was declared void by John Nelms and a few days later he submitted a YES vote which he was perfectly entitled to do as DFC were still well within the timescale allowed for their albeit late vote.

[JamesMcClean]

This is where posters get mixed up,the original vote had nothing to do with the SFA it was an SPFL matter.The 42 club's were requested to vote by the Friday at 5PM but actually had 28 days to submit their vote.

Dundee FC's lost vote was declared void by John Nelms and a few days later he submitted a YES vote which he was perfectly entitled to do as DFC were still well within the timescale allowed for their albeit late vote.

Correct GB. It’s not a makey uppey SPFL rule. It is Company Law and even with the junk mail debacle, ANY Club not just Dundee, were perfectly entitled to change a NO to a YES within 28 days, as they highlighted in the days after the initial ‘deadline’. It was only a change of a YES to a NO that cannot be done under the Law. The initial SPFL deadline of the Friday was advisory only due to the necessary haste for a decision but was NOT enforceable. Hence why the SPFL could do nothing about it until Nelms decided he should finally get round to voting. Hearts think there is jiggery pokery around this but there really isn’t.

[arab777]

If the CoA make a decision on legal grounds, under company law Budge doesn't have a leg to stand on. I think Hearts are hoping that these documents that have had to be released are going to reveal some kind of conspiracy and threat against Dundee. A complete stab in the dark. There already has been an independent investigation in to the Dundee vote which found no fowl play.

[Shedboy1971]

Hearts are in trouble. Thistle may die. Used to care now i dont. RIP ugly sisters.

[ARAbCHNID]

The Final Countdown (days left til start of season) starts tomorrow on TEN. Thank ****. This has been torture.

Eh cannae coont. Today is NINE. Nine more sleeps.

[BudMill90]

They will be too chicken to change the decision now anyway even if there is a bit of evidence supporting them (which there wont be). Imagine the uproar if the season was delayed.