THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Ok so the promise failed early. Forget it, let's go back to the norm for everyone's enjoyment.

Oh the ironing coming from you. I must have answered close to 100 questions from you, you fire them out like confetti.

Obviously when I ask questions back its not quite the same story. As Henry Kelly would say "you're playing catch up".

Yes to everything you say xx

[laddo]

Why is it absurd to think the Cowleys wouldn't come?
Are they untouchable because they managed Huddersfield? Plenty of Managers have been sacked & come down a league or 2 to manage.

Gary Flitcroft was hard done by at the Stags. Laddo doesn't like him cos of his boring interviews but they don't win games. Done reasonably well at Bury Barnsley & Stags
Graham Alexander shown the door by Salford, was doing ok

Some Managers just don't click at one club. Bournemouth being an example, went to PNE, was dire, went back was as success again

"A" Want Notts out of this cesspit league. Can sack him after he has got us up

Can't see it but would absolutely loved be the Cowleys for all the obvious reasons.

Flitcroft is a no for me, he was in some people's eyes hard done by at Field Mill. But in a lot of Stags fans eyes (and mine) he choked badly when he first took over and amazingly failed to get them even a playoff spot. The next season he bottled the playoffs, sound familiar? We don't like that here.

Alexander I haven't seen enough of but on paper I would take.

Some good suggestions so far.

[irishpete]

Can't see it but would absolutely loved be the Cowleys for all the obvious reasons.

Flitcroft is a no for me, he was in some people's eyes hard done by at Field Mill. But in a lot of Stags fans eyes (and mine) he choked badly when he first took over and amazingly failed to get them even a playoff spot. The next season he bottled the playoffs, sound familiar? We don't like that here.

Alexander I haven't seen enough of but on paper I would take.

Some good suggestions so far.

He didn't bottle it. They lost, played well. We don't get that with Ardley

[queenslandpie]

He didn't bottle it. They lost, played well. We don't get that with Ardley

Michael Doyle until the end of the season is the answer! Reedtz of course will never do it. Their long term business strategy don't fit our short term reaction. We can ultimately at this point easily win the league with Neal in charge. But that's a funny comment ultimately. I think Doyle managing and not in midfield is the perfect solution! I might be mad But it does kill two birds with one stone and I can be sure he wont relegate us. What could possibly go wrong?!

[laddo]

Back to ncfcog A or B question.

Is there anyone on here that would seriously select B?

Likely contenders

Pedro/Ken
DavyFacts
Durhampie
Carlton Pie
Angry Pete
Et al.

Any of the above or anyone else would you pick option B? Or is every Notts fan on here A?

[irishpete]

Back to ncfcog A or B question.

Is there anyone on here that would seriously select B?

Likely contenders

Pedro/Ken
DavyFacts
Durhampie
Carlton Pie
Angry Pete
Et al.

Any of the above or anyone else would you pick option B? Or is every Notts fan on here A?

Go **** yourself u lying dimwit Already answered.

[drillerpie]

While I agree with you that this thread doesn’t mirror the reality - which is that Ardley will probably see out his contract - it does at least reflect the dissatisfaction that an increasing number of fans have with Ardley’s inability to get the best out of the squad.

Yes, we seem to pretty much unanimously agree that Ardley isn't getting this group of players playing better than the sum of their parts, but I'm not at all convinced that Ardley is even getting them to play to the sum of their parts.

We have had a constant stream of signings from one or two divisions higher, with some up and coming youngsters, but we rarely dominate anyone and in all his time here I can't remember us stringing more than two or three good performances together.

Effiong is built for this division and scored something like 17 goals in a crap team last year. In his first interview he said that there was a lot to learn about Ardley's system but he was eager and willing to do what the manager asked. Now he's a joke figure who can hardly control the ball.

Elisha Sam is big, quick, skilful and has a cracking shot on him, but months after we signed him we still don't know where to play him.

We score way more goals with Knowles on the pitch than without him, but rarely start with him.

Enzio is being transformed into a defensive wide midfielder.

We all know what a good lower division central midfield looks like (Bishop and Ravenhill) and how many games that kind of mobility and aggression will win you, but we choose Doyle and Reeves every game when fit.

I've been saying for a while that this season would be like a Munto season. Remember when we were hovering around 5th in L2 with no consistency, and people started saying the players weren't good enough? Then a new manager came in with proper motivational skills and a simple but effective game plan everyone could buy into, and it turned out they were actually very good indeed.

I'm sure that's exactly where we are now, only I've resigned myself to the fact that there will be no change.

[TSANHO]

Yes, we seem to pretty much unanimously agree that Ardley isn't getting this group of players playing better than the sum of their parts, but I'm not at all convinced that Ardley is even getting them to play to the sum of their parts.

We have had a constant stream of signings from one or two divisions higher, with some up and coming youngsters, but we rarely dominate anyone and in all his time here I can't remember us stringing more than two or three good performances together.

Effiong is built for this division and scored something like 17 goals in a crap team last year. In his first interview he said that there was a lot to learn about Ardley's system but he was eager and willing to do what the manager asked. Now he's a joke figure who can hardly control the ball.

Elisha Sam is big, quick, skilful and has a cracking shot on him, but months after we signed him we still don't know where to play him.

We score way more goals with Knowles on the pitch than without him, but rarely start with him.

Enzio is being transformed into a defensive wide midfielder.

We all know what a good lower division central midfield looks like (Bishop and Ravenhill) and how many games that kind of mobility and aggression will win you, but we choose Doyle and Reeves every game when fit.

I've been saying for a while that this season would be like a Munto season. Remember when we were hovering around 5th in L2 with no consistency, and people started saying the players weren't good enough? Then a new manager came in with proper motivational skills and a simple but effective game plan everyone could buy into, and it turned out they were actually very good indeed.

I'm sure that's exactly where we are now, only I've resigned myself to the fact that there will be no change.

Good post 👍

[Killerkline]

Yes, we seem to pretty much unanimously agree that Ardley isn't getting this group of players playing better than the sum of their parts, but I'm not at all convinced that Ardley is even getting them to play to the sum of their parts.

We have had a constant stream of signings from one or two divisions higher, with some up and coming youngsters, but we rarely dominate anyone and in all his time here I can't remember us stringing more than two or three good performances together.

Effiong is built for this division and scored something like 17 goals in a crap team last year. In his first interview he said that there was a lot to learn about Ardley's system but he was eager and willing to do what the manager asked. Now he's a joke figure who can hardly control the ball.

Elisha Sam is big, quick, skilful and has a cracking shot on him, but months after we signed him we still don't know where to play him.

We score way more goals with Knowles on the pitch than without him, but rarely start with him.

Enzio is being transformed into a defensive wide midfielder.

We all know what a good lower division central midfield looks like (Bishop and Ravenhill) and how many games that kind of mobility and aggression will win you, but we choose Doyle and Reeves every game when fit.

I've been saying for a while that this season would be like a Munto season. Remember when we were hovering around 5th in L2 with no consistency, and people started saying the players weren't good enough? Then a new manager came in with proper motivational skills and a simple but effective game plan everyone could buy into, and it turned out they were actually very good indeed.

I'm sure that's exactly where we are now, only I've resigned myself to the fact that there will be no change.

Cracking post

[nw6pie]

One point re Ardley losing big games like against Harrogate and not getting the players fired up - could it possibly be that we’re not actually the best team in the league, despite our expectation that we should be (based on our history and ground, and having one of the best budgets, but not necessarily the best)? Harrogate finished above us last season and there’s a reason they were tipped by many to beat us in the playoff final: because they were a better team, with greater energy in all the key areas.

Simple way of gauging how good our players are is to see how many would get into a “League team of the season” XI. I’m guessing maybe Rawlinson and Wootton, but no one else has done it consistently this season - and that’s just as big a problem as the manager.