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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    ...although the opinion is that that our footballers should not be seen to be condoning an organisation that lionises a convicted criminal might be worthy of more than glib dismissal

    My point, either not well made or (accidentally or deliberately, I’m never quite sure) misunderstood by you is that if ‘we’ wish for a world with less discrimination then everyone should sign up to driving out every kind of discrimination, and there are currently too many ‘cards’ being brandished with impunity for that to be more than a pipe dream. The U.K. media strapping the Royal Family to the worlds biggest ducking stool during this morning is a prime example of that.
    Firstly I made no comment about the BLM movement...I mentioned the ‘far right’...the views of which Gunt seems to take every opportunity to ‘lionise’ even to the extent that you had to ‘chastise’ him last week.

    Secondly, although I suspect George Floyd would not be the best of role models that does not give the US authorities the right to deal with (aka murder) him in the way they did.

    I don’t think I misunderstood your point at all...I was actually agreeing, we should be signing up to drive out all forms of discrimination.

    As regards the Royal Family and the ‘ducking stool’. I’m not sure that’s true, but then I may be in the unusual position of thinking the Royal Family are an anachronistic irrelevance and that Meghan Markle is an attention seeking ‘wannabe’ for whom the novelty of being a ‘Princess’ has worn off. Tbh I couldn’t give a stuff about any of them, and suspect it’s just another ‘opium of the people’ TV series in the making at a time when we have many more important things to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Firstly I made no comment about the BLM movement...I mentioned the ‘far right’...the views of which Gunt seems to take every opportunity to ‘lionise’ even to the extent that you had to ‘chastise’ him last week.

    Secondly, although I suspect George Floyd would not be the best of role models that does not give the US authorities the right to deal with (aka murder) him in the way they did.

    I don’t think I misunderstood your point at all...I was actually agreeing, we should be signing up to drive out all forms of discrimination.

    As regards the Royal Family and the ‘ducking stool’. I’m not sure that’s true, but then I may be in the unusual position of thinking the Royal Family are an anachronistic irrelevance and that Meghan Markle is an attention seeking ‘wannabe’ for whom the novelty of being a ‘Princess’ has worn off. Tbh I couldn’t give a stuff about any of them, and suspect it’s just another ‘opium of the people’ TV series in the making at a time when we have many more important things to worry about.
    Para 1 I wasn’t pointing the finger at you on that one.
    Para 2 I offer no defence on the US police’s part, our thin blue line has its issues but thank God we aim to police by concensus. The choice of figurehead and airbrushing out of his backstory,assisted by the media, is astounding though
    Para 4 at least you’re being even handed! Opium of the people is a good summary (albeit lifted)

    Edit, and I can’t help agreeing with at least one part of TTR’s post - Harry’s been ‘had’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post

    ..............Edit, and I can’t help agreeing with at least one part of TTR’s post - Harry’s been ‘had’
    Just like his father was "had" by his mother, another prime whinger who chose to bite the hand that fed it. ironic that the son of the first hand biter has got had by another one himself

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