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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Theres a much bigger picture (in my opinion). This is clearly a political move by Trump. Covid came in the midst of Trump trade war with China. Trump is trying to force countries to take sides. Hes using WHO as a political pawn.

    Its not 'clear' WHO is favouring China. Although Trumps propaganda machine wants us to believe that. In cold light of day what evidence is there (although some will make the argument - but not really my point)?

    The real interesting part in this is how the modern political machine works and its use of social media to deliver their message. GM on the surface of it makes a fairly innocent post. But there is much deeper meaning. Trump has been able to engineer a local debate on a UK football message board). The reach into the community is incredible.

    Through his many tweets and posts, Trump and his team have alligned WHO with China (the China Virus and Kung Fu Flu). And attack on WHO implicates China as the enermy.* Post like this about WHO which creates a local coversation on social media platforms and building anti China rheteric.

    Got to give credit, it's outstanding politics.

    The problems for Britain are stark. During the Brexit referendum the mantra was we needed to break free from shackles of the EU to forge trading relationship with the rest if the World, China and USA in particular.

    During the Brexit debate I warned against a trade deal with China. I said 1. It is not desirable and 2. Would not be as easy as some suggested. I have experience of working there. Experience meant nothing in the brexit debate and I was shouted down by posters like Big Lad.

    Arch Brexiteer Duncan Smith has this to say: "In a race for trade and investment over the past decade, “the free world has marched somewhat blindly into the embrace of [the] Chinese Communist party”. Unfortunately, it was now clear that China was intent on “complete dominance” globally. Speaking to the BBC last month, he went so far as to suggest that revolution was afoot: “While China is a great nation, it’s posing a threat to the natural order.”

    Why didnt he warn of this threat before the Brexit referendum?

    The key is what he means by 'threat to the natural order'. I think he means the shift of wealth from the West to the East (which Ive posted about before).

    The problem we face (in Britain) is who to side with. We are compelled to leave the EU (Get Brexit Done* - drives a wedge between our natural trading allies in Europe - chasing a bigger pot of gold - make Britain Great Again). There is* growing resentment against China (the Brexiteer right wing of the Tory are lining up against Beijing so it seems increasingly unlikely). It appears to forces us straight into an alliance with Trump (and posts like gms helps with that process).

    Be careful of what we wish for my friends. The World is at a crossroad.
    Wow, I didnt realise the weight and gravitas of this post would shake the world so much.

    In terms of contribution to GDP it seems out of kilter, China are not paying their way

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm_gm View Post
    Wow, I didnt realise the weight and gravitas of this post would shake the world so much.

    In terms of contribution to GDP it seems out of kilter, China are not paying their way
    Could it be that China does pay more than it fair share...how how do you quantify contributions that don’t show up in published accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm_gm View Post
    Wow, I didnt realise the weight and gravitas of this post would shake the world so much.

    In terms of contribution to GDP it seems out of kilter, China are not paying their way
    Just like NATO, we are contributing too much, the US is paying too much and the likes of Germany are taking the piss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Just like NATO, we are contributing too much, the US is paying too much and the likes of Germany are taking the piss.
    Bill and Melinda gates are the second biggest contributors IBS, my reference point was countries only

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