Ha ha Grist, so true. I notice that your avatar is the Rotherham United plaque similar to the one I have. Mine is made of solid brass and takes pride of place in Sota Towers. I really don't know much about it, only that my mate in the Mature Millers got it for me and that it's a representation of the old Football Class locos. Any idea how they came about and how many were made? Sorry for wandering off topic.