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Thread: Match Thread vs. Boreham Wood FC 16.03.21 [NL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    You're spot on. We didn't need an inquest into Sam losing the ball near the half-way line with 2 players on him...
    We were playing 3 centre-backs and 2 centre midfielders...where were they?

    Have a good look at Doyle's closing down at first and tracking the runner (number 10) after that...it's shocking.
    Also the play of the centre-backs for both goals.

    But yes, the people running the squad decide who will be bawled at and who won't be, this is then signalled to the media and they influence the supporters...The good old pros keep in with the manager/local reporters and scapegoats are made of the less vocal, sometimes more skilful players.
    Amen to that.

    He allowed their player to just run past him into the penalty area, because he was ball watching and didn't see the run.

    When he finally saw it, he didn't have the pace to get back in time (yes he's fitter than you would expect for his age, but also exactly as slow as you would expect).

    Full respect for what he's done in his career, but in all his time here he's been a massive disappointment for me. I've never really seen any of the things you would expect from an experienced, tough central midfielder since he came in (we've had numerous collapses / last minute meltdowns, he himself has got himself sent off more than once for poor discipline, and you can count on the fingers of one hand how many times we've bossed centre midfield).

    If you want to talk veteran midfielders, I'd say Gavin Mahon did way more in the six months before his legs went than 'Doyler' has done in two years.

    He is good at jogging, pointing and shouting though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    You're spot on. We didn't need an inquest into Sam losing the ball near the half-way line with 2 players on him...
    We were playing 3 centre-backs and 2 centre midfielders...where were they?

    Have a good look at Doyle's closing down at first and tracking the runner (number 10) after that...it's shocking.
    Also the play of the centre-backs for both goals.

    But yes, the people running the squad decide who will be bawled at and who won't be, this is then signalled to the media and they influence the supporters...The good old pros keep in with the manager/local reporters and scapegoats are made of the less vocal, sometimes more skilful players.
    This. Eli didn't hold the ball up well but losing it in that position should not result in a goal. Doyle ambled over really slowly which didn't shut it down quickly enough and also opened up a massive gap where he should have been. How can your centre midfield be so easy to play through and yet you still persist with the same midfield. He really is hammering his own nails into the lid.

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    Plenty at fault for the goal as there often is when analysed but for me Sam starts the issue and is the main issue. Poor decision, poor control, no need for a flick or trick in that situation.

    Agree he's definitely bet all his chips on a Doyle focused team, and there are some obvious reasons why.

    Live or die , succeed or fail by Doyle's involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    for me Sam starts the issue and is the main issue. Poor decision, poor control, no need for a flick or trick in that situation.
    You could argue that being behind in a football match and not creating much is a reason for a creative attacking player to try something, although I understand NA prefers any kind of individuality or unpredictability to be suppressed in favour of his paint-by-numbers patterns of play, also known as THE SYSTEM, which is more important than anything and anyone, even though it doesn't really work.

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    Both goals were poor ones to concede - for the first, none of the three centre halves challenge for a hopeful lofted ball from the halfway line. For the second, we give the ball away in a bad place and, despite having plenty of men back, are easy to play through because we don’t have the intensity to win the ball back that those football giants like Boreham Wood and Halifax have.

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    Personally I'm happy for players to take risks, try something different but not in your own half, with you facing your own goal and one or two opposition players right up your backside. Forget NA, any manager/coach would rightly be going nuts at a player attempting what Sam tried to do. Again the risk was high the reward was not.

    There is a time and place for flicks and tricks and that clearly wasn't it. Poor decision making and execution from the youngster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    Personally I'm happy for players to take risks, try something different but not in your own half, with you facing your own goal and one or two opposition players right up your backside. Forget NA, any manager/coach would rightly be going nuts at a player attempting what Sam tried to do. Again the risk was high the reward was not.
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    You can’t ‘forget’ NA,,he’s the bloke who signed and picked Sam for the team. He’s the bloke who made Doyle captain and totally inexplicably picks hims week in, week out. When these decisions inevitably lead to cock ups, Ardley is the person responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    Plenty at fault for the goal as there often is when analysed but for me Sam starts the issue and is the main issue. Poor decision, poor control, no need for a flick or trick in that situation.
    Surely the main issue is our captain not bothering to do his job and track his man? Not something that has often been said to Doyle is his career but watch the replay and it's clear he couldn't be arsed to get back. He never once busts a gut to get back and try and make a difference.

    Mistakes should be forgiven, especially at this level, but not putting in the effort is unforgiveable from Sunday league to the Champions League

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    You can’t ‘forget’ NA,,he’s the bloke who signed and picked Sam for the team. He’s the bloke who made Doyle captain and totally inexplicably picks hims week in, week out. When these decisions inevitably lead to cock ups, Ardley is the person responsible.
    "Forget NA" as in all managers and coaches would go nuts at Sam's decision and losing the ball so carelessly.

    BFP who would you have picked instead of Sam for the game? Doyle as captain makes total sense, experience, effort, pedigree. Shouldn't play every game mind but a lack of effort hasn't really applied to Doyle at Notts.

    The manager is always ultimately responsible for everything on the pitch but you don't have to find a link back to the manager for every goal conceded.

    Doyle track back, Sam control a simple pass, defender (can't remember who) don't get sucked in and leave your man.

    Some times it's the fault of the players for not doing the basics. The main issue is Sam's poor decision, and poor control. If that doesn't happen , the lack of tracking back is irrelevant.

    Anyway it's old news it's happened, thankfully we haven't analysed every Notts goal conceded to this extent so far this season lol

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