tony blair...citizens arrest

[grabut]

I didn't think there were many tories in Wolverhampton, perhaps they are all on here lol.

[Greavseywolf]

Vote labour. You know it makes sense. The alternative is more of the sycophantic knobs who purport to rule at the mo.

could never bring mesen to vote labour ian, and
here's why ( sometimes pics are better than words )










having said that , i do appreciate everybodies
own political stance and point of view.

[greystone16]

Sometimes the country is run as badly as some football clubs. Gabut we do have a British Asian type Tory MP in Wolverhampton by the way,he has Enochs old seat.
Didn't someone flog off the UK gold reserves at the lowest ever price,'er Brown George or George Brown that's him,never appears in the Commons these days but still draws his wages no doubt and a wacking great ex PM pension.

[Mr.D]

Sometimes the country is run as badly as some football clubs. Gabut we do have a British Asian type Tory MP in Wolverhampton by the way,he has Enochs old seat.
Didn't someone flog off the UK gold reserves at the lowest ever price,'er Brown George or George Brown that's him,never appears in the Commons these days but still draws his wages no doubt and a wacking great ex PM pension.

That would be Gordon Brown mate.

[greystone16]

Thanks Mr D ,that's how memorable the man was,couldn't even remember his right.

[jiltedjohn]

If we lived in a true democracy Westminster would be full of independent MP's not the Labour/Tory cartel.
Watch this space, Russia, China and India will soon be the biggest economies in the world leaving Britain in tatters, capitalism will be this country's downfall.

[dunstablewolf]

If we lived in a true democracy Westminster would be full of independent MP's not the Labour/Tory cartel.
Watch this space, Russia, China and India will soon be the biggest economies in the world leaving Britain in tatters, capitalism will be this country's downfall.

Haven't all those countries been built on capatitalism?

Some of the largest corporations in the world come from those countries. Gasprom , huwaei, airtel etc etc.

All of the above already have economies bigger than ours which is why we are investing in India and China.

I can't see your point? There is no better way than capitalism. Even communist state can see that?

[jiltedjohn]

If we lived in a true democracy Westminster would be full of independent MP's not the Labour/Tory cartel.
Watch this space, Russia, China and India will soon be the biggest economies in the world leaving Britain in tatters, capitalism will be this country's downfall.

Haven't all those countries been built on capatitalism?

Some of the largest corporations in the world come from those countries. Gasprom , huwaei, airtel etc etc.

All of the above already have economies bigger than ours which is why we are investing in India and China.

I can't see your point? There is no better way than capitalism. Even communist state can see that?[/quote]


Britain is becoming a smaller fish in an ever bigger pond and it won't be long until the USA sinks down the economic ladder too. When the tide turns and we in the West are the ones living off a bowl of rice a day you may have to explain

[dunstablewolf]

I had a similar conversation with an anti capitalist the other day. I am open to change as I accept that there are certain large corporate organisations that have, shall we say, a lack in moral fibre.

Several questions I have not heard an answer too.

1) what is a viable alternative to capitalism?
People want to better themselves, people respond to competition. How can we have a one size fits all culture? Business will always have big fish and small fish.

2) without business expansion how do you accommodate jobs for the masses?

3) how is wealth created?

4) who controls the wealth. ( hopefully not communist where wealth is governed by the government and corporates have zero power).

If you can answer these ***** questions I will consider another way of living until then. I will take my chances in a global economy and embrace the likes of china, India and up coming capitalist nations?

[jiltedjohn]

1. What better than people working and living in harmony for the common good.

2. There's plenty of work for idle hands in this country, unfortunately it will never be done a) because there is no profit in it for the private sector b) the public sector can't afford to do it without borrowing from the capitalist system.

3. I take it you're on about financial wealth, if we are all working as one then who needs excess cash.

4. The WEALTH would be distributed more evenly by the people.

TBH, I don't have the answers to the worlds problems, but one things for sure the capitalist system doesn't want equality. Governments shout about equality and being a part of the community and being a good citizen, when in reality it's dog eat dog out there.
China and Russia don't have the best track records when it comes to human rights, when they become the worlds super powers, life might get tougher for a lot more people around the globe.