Must Be A Rochdale Thing

[moorlad]

There's loads of work up here.. They need to change the benefit laws and make people that have been unemployed long term to move to another city lets just say Aberdeen.. Get a job within 2 days for sure..

The Spanish come over to work coz they want to work..

The poles.. They want to work..

We have people from all over the world working here..

And are desperate for more woman and men to come..

All skills catered for.

Aye, let's have modern day Highland clearances of people, let's split up families cos people are only slaves of the rich[/quote]

I'd have thought you'd only be desperate for more women to come, buc.[/quote]

Why would he? He's happily married.

[cpw_cpw]

There's loads of work up here.. They need to change the benefit laws and make people that have been unemployed long term to move to another city lets just say Aberdeen.. Get a job within 2 days for sure..

The Spanish come over to work coz they want to work..

The poles.. They want to work..

We have people from all over the world working here..

And are desperate for more woman and men to come..

All skills catered for.

spain has criminal levels of youth unemployment (around 50%) and poland has a feeble currency compared to sterling. if you're earning in pounds and spending in zloty you're quids in.

could a middle aged woman wih no qualifications earn over 250 a week in the shangri la of aberdeen?[/quote]


Yes indeed 250 a week here is easily achieved

But flats in Aberdeen landlords are taking the piss from hard working desperate people.. O

[moorlad]

Aye, that's what she says, why bother looking for an job, when she gets plenty off of handouts. She wants her kids to follow in her footsteps too, that's geet cute, eh? I thought youse said these people don't actually exist.

[cpw_cpw]

Aye, that's what she says, why bother looking for an job, when she gets plenty off of handouts. She wants her kids to follow in her footsteps too, that's geet cute, eh? I thought youse said these people don't actually exist.

not sure where you get that from. never said that.

they're a product of society. as i wrote earlier, thatcher's britain.

you simply can't do what the tories did in the 80s to ppl and expect everyone to toe the line.

i'm sure you'll tell me these ppl were shiftless before the 80s. i don't believe it.

there has been a geet robbery of common wealth given over to private hands since the 80s. there has been a fundamental underminig of the unions. and there has been headlong pursuit of the financial services industry at the expense of other parts of the economy.

your little feckless families in cumbria are reacting to that - whether they're conscious of the fact or not.

[moorlad]

there has been a geet robbery of common wealth given over to private hands since the 80s. there has been a fundamental underminig of the unions. and there has been headlong pursuit of the financial services industry at the expense of other parts of the economy.

Sorry, can't argue with an word off of that, it is also excally what I've been saying. However there have been people I know on the dole since before Thatcher was elected, and their parents before them. Whether you believe it or not is of no consequence, it is the plain truth.

[cpw_cpw]

i don't deny that there were ppl on the dole before thatcher. what i mean is that culture of fecklessness that has taken root is the result of the 80s and 90s.

i don't know how many or what kind of ppl you are talking about, but something seems to really bother you.

what you seem to be saying is that these ppl have work shy genes or are inherently shiftless.

if that's so, ask yourself how their forbears managed to survive in the many thousands of years before the advent of social security.

it's not the fault of genes but society. you need to look closer to home for the answers you want.

[moorlad]

There are a number off of people who are still alive here who did national service in the 50s with my father, they've never worked since. Some of their kids went to school with me and left in the 70s and have never worked. Their children don't have jobs, and theirs won't either. It is not genetic, it is learned, not nature, but nurture (or lack thereof).

[cpw_cpw]

and who did the paterfamilias in the 50s learn it off of?

[ThisTimeNextYear]

Diluted. Really diluted. Dunno what the frig Thatcher has to do with it tbf. Sounds like the ramblings of a dangerous lefty to me...And then the unions pop up. Which confirms it tbh.

So let's step back... What do you propose is the answer, to the clear abuse of the benefits culture that exists?

[tapped]

Diluted. Really diluted. Dunno what the frig Thatcher has to do with it tbf. Sounds like the ramblings of a dangerous lefty to me...And then the unions pop up. Which confirms it tbh.

So let's step back... What do you propose is the answer, to the clear abuse of the benefits culture that exists?

Tidy response TTNY

The answer is "you can only draw out from what you have put in"
Trubble is there is plenty of folk like cpw
who expect summat for nowt ..

Folk like to forget that the welfare system was invented as an safety net ..not a way of life.

His rail at Thatcher shows he is nae very bright. History and politica not his best
subjects.
Thir**** (13) years of libour showering handouts to the workshy.