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[MillHillRover]

Surely the point is that week in, week out, the players let Bowyer down, both physically and mentally they switch off.

Dan you have made the "Gary Bowyer out" brigades point for them, working on your assumption that would appear to lay any blame for our underachievement's squarely at GBs feet cause after all isn't that what he is employed to do motivate his players ? don't get me wrong im not calling for his head (just yet) but I do wish he wasn't so nice he could do with a few ruthlessness lessons maybe it would rub off on his team.

[champs95]

Aside from the fact that 3 starters yesterday have 'tasted promotion' in the last 2 seasons, it doesn't abait from the fact that this season, that the players switch off during matches.

But I take it from using stats in your reply that you're at just as stumpted as everyone else as to how to get the players to play for a whopping 90 minutes too then?

I'm stumped at one fact yesterday. Over 90 mins we attacked. We created numerous chances. Most of which hit the target. Hitting the woodwork 5 times suggests we where rather unlucky. That's not lack of motivation at all. Just bad luck. You win some, you lose some. Of those 3 players, who was a regular starter? Who made a telling contribution to promotion, playing week in week out? Cairney? Bit part player for Hull. Tunnicliffe? Steele? Ollson? Henley? Hanley or Duff? Conway? Rhodes of Gestede? Marshall? I'm struggling here a bit? I see lots of players there with no experience of play

[DanRrr]

Aside from the fact that 3 starters yesterday have 'tasted promotion' in the last 2 seasons, it doesn't abait from the fact that this season, that the players switch off during matches.

But I take it from using stats in your reply that you're at just as stumpted as everyone else as to how to get the players to play for a whopping 90 minutes too then?

I'm stumped at one fact yesterday. Over 90 mins we attacked. We created numerous chances. Most of which hit the target. Hitting the woodwork 5 times suggests we where rather unlucky. That's not lack of motivation at all. Just bad luck. You win some, you lose some. Of those 3 players, who was a regular starter? Who made a telling contribution to promotion, playing week in week out? Cairney? Bit part player for Hull. Tunnicliffe? Steele? Ollson? Henley? Hanley or Duff? Conway? Rhodes of Gestede? Marshall? I'm struggling here a bit? I see lo

[DanRrr]

Surely the point is that week in, week out, the players let Bowyer down, both physically and mentally they switch off.

Dan you have made the "Gary Bowyer out" brigades point for them, working on your assumption that would appear to lay any blame for our underachievement's squarely at GBs feet cause after all isn't that what he is employed to do motivate his players ? don't get me wrong im not calling for his head (just yet) but I do wish he wasn't so nice he could do with a few ruthlessness lessons maybe it would rub off on his team.[/quote]

Yep, I'm afraid to say that this is just how I see it too

[champs95]

Surely the point is that week in, week out, the players let Bowyer down, both physically and mentally they switch off.

Dan you have made the "Gary Bowyer out" brigades point for them, working on your assumption that would appear to lay any blame for our underachievement's squarely at GBs feet cause after all isn't that what he is employed to do motivate his players ? don't get me wrong im not calling for his head (just yet) but I do wish he wasn't so nice he could do with a few ruthlessness lessons maybe it would rub off on his team.[/quote]

Yep, I'm afraid to say that this is just how I see it too [/quote]

Milly hasn't been too good for quite a while, so hasn't been going to games. Remember your rule about people commenting on games they haven't seen? Is that rule consistent, or just for the ones who don't share your point?

[champs95]

Aside from the fact that 3 starters yesterday have 'tasted promotion' in the last 2 seasons, it doesn't abait from the fact that this season, that the players switch off during matches.

But I take it from using stats in your reply that you're at just as stumpted as everyone else as to how to get the players to play for a whopping 90 minutes too then?

I'm stumped at one fact yesterday. Over 90 mins we attacked. We created numerous chances. Most of which hit the target. Hitting the woodwork 5 times suggests we where rather unlucky. That's not lack of motivation at all. Just bad luck. You win some, you lose some. Of those 3 players, who was a regular starter? Who made a telling contribution to promotion, playing week in week out? Cairney? Bit part player for Hull. Tunnicliffe? Steele? Ollson? Henley? Hanley or Duff? Conway? Rhodes of Gestede? M

[MillHillRover]

Milly hasn't been too good for quite a while, so hasn't been going to games. Remember your rule about people commenting on games they haven't seen? Is that rule consistent, or just for the ones who don't share your point?

Now Now champs remember tis the season of goodwill to all men

Actually my friend I have seen all but the last 2 games of last season before I was taken ill and I've seen all games from the begining of September due to the wonders of the internet, And my "RULE" as you rather sarcastically referred to (IMO) i'll admit was aimed at the likes of Aucks who at the time was commenting on games where he had only seen 90seconds of highlights, now the championship games are being streamed I respect his views a lot more than I used too (I always respected him anyway (in a perverse sort of way lol)

Love ya really Aucks

[champs95]

Milly hasn't been too good for quite a while, so hasn't been going to games. Remember your rule about people commenting on games they haven't seen? Is that rule consistent, or just for the ones who don't share your point?

Now Now champs remember tis the season of goodwill to all men

Actually my friend I have seen all but the last 2 games of last season before I was taken ill and I've seen all games from the begining of September due to the wonders of the internet, And my "RULE" as you rather sarcastically referred to (IMO) i'll admit was aimed at the likes of Aucks who at the time was commenting on games where he had only seen 90seconds of highlights, now the championship games are being streamed I respect his views a lot more than I used too (I always respected him anyway (in a perverse sort of way lol)

Love ya really Aucks [/quote]



Milly, you know I love you loads.

[Howie5o]

Milly hasn't been too good for quite a while, so hasn't been going to games. Remember your rule about people commenting on games they haven't seen? Is that rule consistent, or just for the ones who don't share your point?

Now Now champs remember tis the season of goodwill to all men

Actually my friend I have seen all but the last 2 games of last season before I was taken ill and I've seen all games from the begining of September due to the wonders of the internet, And my "RULE" as you rather sarcastically referred to (IMO) i'll admit was aimed at the likes of Aucks who at the time was commenting on games where he had only seen 90seconds of highlights, now the championship games are being streamed I respect his views a lot more than I used too (I always respected him anyway (in a perverse sort of way lol)

Love ya really Aucks ;

[champs95]

Milly hasn't been too good for quite a while, so hasn't been going to games. Remember your rule about people commenting on games they haven't seen? Is that rule consistent, or just for the ones who don't share your point?

Now Now champs remember tis the season of goodwill to all men

Actually my friend I have seen all but the last 2 games of last season before I was taken ill and I've seen all games from the begining of September due to the wonders of the internet, And my "RULE" as you rather sarcastically referred to (IMO) i'll admit was aimed at the likes of Aucks who at the time was commenting on games where he had only seen 90seconds of highlights, now the championship games are being streamed I respect his views a lot more than I used too (I always respected him anyway (in a perve