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[AdiSalisbury]

I’m sure you and Adi are better equipped to talk about this than me...but if your way of life/means of income is directly impacted upon by Brexit then why was it ‘very silly’ to oppose it?
After all, we’ve heard enough from fisherman, who represent a minuscule part of our economy, in support of Brexit...didn’t hear either of you complain about that.

The issue isn't the visas, it's the transport of instruments that the pressure group should have focused on. Instead they stirred up anti Brexit emotions in an effort to increase membership, and have as such failed their members - which is a shame as they otherwise are a league above most unions in terms of positive activity.

Very few make an income from travelling Europe, the few that do tend to be millionaire's or tribute acts, both of which can cover the costs in their pricing without anyone really noticing (have you seen how much a concert ticket is these days?!). A friend of mine who I often provide services for has number 1s abroad, every tour was basically a discounted holiday, never considered income. Most professional musicians work within their own country- if you want a session drummer, you're hardly going to get an Estonian in when there's a local person available. If you do need a specialist from abroad, the tracks are recorded remotely, there's no need to travel.

The MU has benefited massively from Brexit.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Can you not distinguish between a list of accurate and true reasons as to why a person is dubious and vitriol?

The 326k a month was a demonstration that maybe Farage isn't as altruistic as he is being made out to be! It reinforces the fact that he didn't pursue Brexit, because he believes in it, more that it provided him with an opportunity to get himself in the public eye, earn a few quid and cosy up to some pretty dubious rich people.

So it's now gone up from 26k a year to 326k a month when you wish to demonstrate the accuracy and truth of your argument?

I can forgive one as maybe being a typo, but both? When you claim to present a list of accurate and truthful assertions, it helps if the are.

But even 326k a month dwarves when considering the altruism of Sir Lewis Hamilton presently negotiating o 40 million annual contract with Mercedes I understand

[swaledale]

So it's now gone up from 26k a year to 326k a month when you wish to demonstrate the accuracy and truth of your argument?

I can forgive one as maybe being a typo, but both? When you claim to present a list of accurate and truthful assertions, it helps if the are.

But even 326k a month dwarves when considering the altruism of Sir Lewis Hamilton presently negotiating o 40 million annual contract with Mercedes I understand

If you look back through my posts you will see that I have consistently quoted £26k a month, so mea culpa, I mistyped something, but I guess it helps to be a pedant when your desperately trying to find a chink in what I'm saying.

[ramAnag]

Once again you only see the negative. Firstly, and I will only talk about the niche I have a strong knowledge of,
maybe 90% of the musicians and support teams would never travel beyond U.K. so it’s not relevant. Secondly, again my genre only, there’s more IMPORT of live music than EXPORT, so any reduction in traffic will be to U.K. musicians benefit. Thirdly there’s a vocal cohort whinging about the situation but (as usual, you may have heard this phrase before) a silent majority who will just fill in the forms and get on with it - and having seen some of the ‘it’, it ranges from a few ticks on a webpage to some nuisance paperwork, BUT please believe me the worst I’ve seen is a tenth as difficult as US requirements.

Regarding fishing, I’ve not commented a lot because I don’t know the deep detail. Maybe if we only posted when we did know such, it would shut a lot of us up a bit but that’s a forlorn hope

Bit grumpy, AF. I’m not ‘only seeing the negative’ at all. I asked a question...why describe musicians in the MU as ‘very silly’ for taking an anti Brexit stance?
Maybe if we all only posted when we know the ‘deep detail’ there wouldn’t be a forum at all...and there certainly wouldn’t have been a Referendum.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Frankly I don't have the time or desire to backtrack through all your past posts to see which figure you quote in a given post is correct and whether it agrees to other ones.

You state your posts are accurate and true. In two consecutive posts you cite totally different figures.

Call me a pedant if you wish, but if you want people to believe you, try to get the figures right at least once. It now seems you meant a third different figure and neither of the previous two.

Does this mean all your other accurate and true observations are equally flawed and that we need to trawl back through 100s of posts to check?

[MadAmster]

326K. Surely a sensible person would realise that the £ sign is the numeric key sign on the same key as the 3. Either the numeric shift wasn't pressed or it was pressed too late IMO. Point scoring on that is top class pedancy.

[ramAnag]

Setting aside political disagreement for one moment, MOP has a point. If honours are given for affecting change and getting things done, then Farage deserves recognition, like it or not.

If Lewis Hamilton can become "Sir" for driving a car round and round quickly, and latterly, having achieved such fame, clinging on to the coat tails of BLM, then Farage should be elevated to the Upper House.

Safe place for him and, as it stands, one where his influence can be restricted thus appeasing remainder objections

‘If honours are given for affecting change and getting things done’, then I’d suggest others from Dominic Cummings to Gerry Adams would be considered equally ‘worthy’ of recognition though it’s doubtful many would approve.

I think the word ‘beneficial’ as a prefix to ‘change’ is probably missing from your rationale, GP.
Maybe (I obviously doubt it) some time in the future, when the UK is flourishing as one of the World’s most successful nations, we’ll be able to cry ‘God for Nigel, England and St. George’ and award him all he deserves.
In the meantime, as I said some time ago, unwise to honour the most divisive and self serving ‘man’ in the country even if the most discredited and divisive ‘man’ in the World believes him to be the ‘King of Europe’.

[Geoff Parkstone]

326K. Surely a sensible person would realise that the £ sign is the numeric key sign on the same key as the 3. Either the numeric shift wasn't pressed or it was pressed too late IMO. Point scoring on that is top class pedancy.

If you'd taken the time to read my post MA you would see that I acknowledged that typo probability at the outset, without admittedly your level of detail. It was the per annum to per month shift that was more perplexing. So no points scoring, just confusion about our most accurate of posters.

[Geoff Parkstone]

‘If honours are given for affecting change and getting things done’, then I’d suggest others from Dominic Cummings to Gerry Adams would be considered equally ‘worthy’ of recognition though it’s doubtful many would approve.

I think the word ‘beneficial’ as a prefix to ‘change’ is probably missing from your rationale, GP.
Maybe (I obviously doubt it) some time in the future, when the UK is flourishing as one of the World’s most successful nations, we’ll be able to cry ‘God for Nigel, England and St. George’ and award him all he deserves.
In the meantime, as I said some time ago, unwise to honour the most divisive and self serving ‘man’ in the country even if the most discredited and divisive ‘man’ in the World believes him to be the ‘King of Europe’.

Beneficial is in the eyes of the beholder - whilst you don't see the change spurred by Farage as beneficial, there are others who do.

I suspect Gerry Adams might decline his one!

[Geoff Parkstone]

326K. Surely a sensible person would realise that the £ sign is the numeric key sign on the same key as the 3. Either the numeric shift wasn't pressed or it was pressed too late IMO. Point scoring on that is top class pedancy.

At this risk of being pedantic, it's pedantry not pedancy, or have I, in so saying, falling into your point scoring trap? 😊😊😊