OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[swaledale]

Of course not. I mean...having it emblazoned all over the side of Johnson’s ‘battle bus’ as an iconic emblem of the ‘Vote Leave’ campaign...who could possibly have thought otherwise?
It’s a little like promising that the negotiations would be amongst the ‘easiest ever’ and that...of course there’s going to be no problem with the NI border. Remember those two?

Or that we will be able to negotiate the same benefits outside the EU as we had in the EU!!!

As for immigration, well it seems the lack of labour is costing pig and vegetable farmers millions of pounds and will further push up food prices here.

Mind you as I understand it the only problem with the NI border is in the minds of unionist politicians, NI businesses are delighted to be still in the customs union and single market, it makes trade with the Eu so much easier and trade within Ireland is up to, a win win all round.

I mean who said there were no benefits to Brexit? Oh yes the whole UK enjoyed those benefits before Brexit!!

[swaledale]

Isn't it ironic, thinking about Sunak's wife's tax affairs that some of those who voted for Brexit did so to get rid of an "out of touch" elite, who didn't understand the life of the average person, only to find themselves governed by politicians such as Sunak, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, et al who clearly don't have a clue about the lives of most people and what's worse clearly don't give a **** about them either!

[ramAnag]

Isn't it ironic, thinking about Sunak's wife's tax affairs that some of those who voted for Brexit did so to get rid of an "out of touch" elite, who didn't understand the life of the average person, only to find themselves governed by politicians such as Sunak, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, et al who clearly don't have a clue about the lives of most people and what's worse clearly don't give a **** about them either!

It is ironic...it’s also totally predictable and emblematic of those currently in charge.

[swaledale]

It is ironic...it’s also totally predictable and emblematic of those currently in charge.

Indeed, but why do people fall for this *******s? I mean I hear the all politicians are the same *******s, which clearly isn't true and yes other parties have their faults, but even the most dumb of people can surely see the Tories only fling enough crumbs to the vast majority of people in order to keep the gravy train going for their super rich chums?

I mean there is a reason millionaires and billionaires donate huge amounts of money to the Tories and its not so that they can foster a more equal fairer society!

History does show that under Labour, people get lifted out of poverty, educational and job prospects improve, the NHS has better funding, society is better for it.

[swaledale]

Better not tell Thicky this!

The number of non-EU migrants coming to the UK to work and study soared in the first year of Britain’s post-Brexit immigration system, official figures have revealed.

Home Office immigration figures for the whole of last year revealed there were 239,987 work-related visas granted, 25 per cent higher than in 2019, the last full year before the pandemic. Less than a tenth were EU migrants, who had to obtain a visa from January last year after the end of freedom of movement.

The main driver of the sharp increase in work-related immigration since 2019 came from migrants from outside the EU.

[Ramshank72]

Better not tell Thicky this!

The number of non-EU migrants coming to the UK to work and study soared in the first year of Britain’s post-Brexit immigration system, official figures have revealed.

Home Office immigration figures for the whole of last year revealed there were 239,987 work-related visas granted, 25 per cent higher than in 2019, the last full year before the pandemic. Less than a tenth were EU migrants, who had to obtain a visa from January last year after the end of freedom of movement.

The main driver of the sharp increase in work-related immigration since 2019 came from migrants from outside the EU.

That's a good thing isn't it, even for those who voted Brexit? Don't know what Tricky will say but it will probably have a link

[Geoff Parkstone]

According to labour workforce stat, in Feb 2020 there were 2.3 million EU migrant workers in UK. Much the same figure we can assume in the last full year pre covid. Lets say 50% applied for landed status and became "British" for work purposes by the end of 2021.

So your figure for total migrant labour in 2019 would be around 2.5 million (adding the 192,000 inferred in your 25% increase in non EU working visas by the end of 2021) In 2021 we might estimate your 240,000 no EU visaholders plus half of the EU migrant workers who settled her - ie about 1.4 million.

So I think TTR would be well pleased with this - a net fall in migrant workers of around 1 million.

[swaledale]

According to labour workforce stat, in Feb 2020 there were 2.3 million EU migrant workers in UK. Much the same figure we can assume in the last full year pre covid. Lets say 50% applied for landed status and became "British" for work purposes by the end of 2021.

So your figure for total migrant labour in 2019 would be around 2.5 million (adding the 192,000 inferred in your 25% increase in non EU working visas by the end of 2021) In 2021 we might estimate your 240,000 no EU visaholders plus half of the EU migrant workers who settled her - ie about 1.4 million.

So I think TTR would be well pleased with this - a net fall in migrant workers of around 1 million.

Not like you to post figures that have a lot of assumption and guess work in them? I mean what's 1 million between friends? Not really sure why you bothered posting statistics that even you have heavily caveated.

[Trickytreesreds]

According to labour workforce stat, in Feb 2020 there were 2.3 million EU migrant workers in UK. Much the same figure we can assume in the last full year pre covid. Lets say 50% applied for landed status and became "British" for work purposes by the end of 2021.

So your figure for total migrant labour in 2019 would be around 2.5 million (adding the 192,000 inferred in your 25% increase in non EU working visas by the end of 2021) In 2021 we might estimate your 240,000 no EU visaholders plus half of the EU migrant workers who settled her - ie about 1.4 million.

So I think TTR would be well pleased with this - a net fall in migrant workers of around 1 million.

No need to explain it, to Junckale

He obviously never reads what's in front of him.

You see, he believes xenophobia, applies to every person who asked for controlled immigration, not to stop it.
Commonwealth countries were being sidelined due to EU regulations and now they aren't.
It's our choice to say who comes in and who stays.
But don't let mouthy dissuade you.

I have a game to watch, bye.

[swaledale]

Rees-Mogg announced that the government was delaying yet again the imposition of post-Brexit border checks on imports from the EU. He asked the public to celebrate this decision, on the grounds that it would save £1bn a year and help hard-pressed consumers by avoiding an increase in the cost of imported food. Enforcing post-Brexit checks, said the minister, “would have been an act of self-harm”.

You read that right. Jacob Rees-Mogg, arch-leaver and longtime loather of the EU, is now parroting lines from the remain campaign. He is admitting that implementing Brexit in full, honouring the 2016 promise to take back control of Britain’s borders, would be “an act of self-harm”.

There’s plenty to attack here, starting with the nerve of hailing this move as “saving” Britons £1bn, when this was £1bn that Britons would never have had to spend at all if it hadn’t been for Brexit. Or you could share the outrage of British farmers, appalled that, thanks to Brexit, they have been left at a serious competitive disadvantage: they now face onerous and costly checks when they ship their goods across the Channel, while French, Italian or Spanish farmers face no such hassle moving their products in the other direction. Or you could worry along with the British Veterinary Association, which warns that not checking food imports leaves Britain exposed to “catastrophic” animal diseases such as African swine fever – a risk that was reduced when Britain was part of “the EU’s integrated and highly responsive surveillance systems”. Or you could join the lament of the UK Major Ports Group, whose members have spent hundreds of millions of pounds building checking facilities, which now stand unused as “bespoke white elephants”