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Thread: OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    HMG put the lid on it, maybe?
    Your not suggesting that most of the media is a puppet of the current government surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    Your not suggesting that most of the media is a puppet of the current government surely?
    Would I ever?

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    You missed Khan crying over it as well. Of course all those lovley fact producers had/have no bias to what they want do they?

    Lets just look at the reasosn why, starting with Tory failure to pusg the boat fully out and take advantage.
    GDP is always the figure use to defend 700 000 immigrants flooding into the country, which a lower production industry than Europe countries ike Germany.
    You Swale scream, immigration , immigrtaion, immigration. But lets look at the downside of that. U.K. real GDP per capita has barely risen above pre-Covid levels and currently stands 4% above the mid-2016 level, it said. That compares to 8% for the euro zone area and 15% for the U.S.

    More bodies= less capita per body. Immigration from the EU has fallen — a key pledge of the Vote Leave campaign — only to be replaced by a less economically active cohort of non-EU migrants, primarily students. Basically, import low value immigration and their bloated families, to drain the coffers and keep the minimum wage love fest alive.

    Australia takes in 66,000 “temporary migrants who reside in Australia for several years but never transition to permanent residence”
    Even true immigrants are less than 200 000 all in. But not the UK, lets open the doors up and ruin everyones quality of life.
    Labour started it and the Tories let it carry on. The Aussies cherry pick the best- in age/health/qualifications/ clean slate of criminality to aid and push their growth.

    Lets not paint the picture of all is rosy in the EU either. It isn't, https://economy-finance.ec.europa.eu...enging-year_en

    Not forgetting that unemployment is 3% higher in the EU as well. Under 25's a shocking 15%

    We can all paint a picture, but it depends on what paints you use and how big the view on canvas is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    You missed Khan crying over it as well. Of course all those lovley fact producers had/have no bias to what they want do they?

    Lets just look at the reasosn why, starting with Tory failure to pusg the boat fully out and take advantage.
    GDP is always the figure use to defend 700 000 immigrants flooding into the country, which a lower production industry than Europe countries ike Germany.
    You Swale scream, immigration , immigrtaion, immigration. But lets look at the downside of that. U.K. real GDP per capita has barely risen above pre-Covid levels and currently stands 4% above the mid-2016 level, it said. That compares to 8% for the euro zone area and 15% for the U.S.

    More bodies= less capita per body. Immigration from the EU has fallen — a key pledge of the Vote Leave campaign — only to be replaced by a less economically active cohort of non-EU migrants, primarily students. Basically, import low value immigration and their bloated families, to drain the coffers and keep the minimum wage love fest alive.

    Australia takes in 66,000 “temporary migrants who reside in Australia for several years but never transition to permanent residence”
    Even true immigrants are less than 200 000 all in. But not the UK, lets open the doors up and ruin everyones quality of life.
    Labour started it and the Tories let it carry on. The Aussies cherry pick the best- in age/health/qualifications/ clean slate of criminality to aid and push their growth.

    Lets not paint the picture of all is rosy in the EU either. It isn't, https://economy-finance.ec.europa.eu...enging-year_en

    Not forgetting that unemployment is 3% higher in the EU as well. Under 25's a shocking 15%

    We can all paint a picture, but it depends on what paints you use and how big the view on canvas is.
    Anyone would think your fixated on immigration Tricky! And you still have to come up with how you would address the falling birth rate, an increasing older population and a consequent lack of workforce that will continue to stagnate the economy.

    In any case, these are actual quantifiable FACTS, not pie in the sky *******s fed to the credulous like yourself.

    Of course I would assume your all in favour of a compete change in economic thinking, where growth isn't the aim, but the creation of an equal sustainable economy, with the aim of reducing the gross inequality between those that have the wealth and those that don't, a fair and equitable division of the wealth generated by all, a tax system that favours redistribution and possibly a universal income?

    I do laugh whenever a Brexit voter or supporter, claims the failure of Brexit is down to the failure of this government to take the opportunities Brexit gave the UK. Please explain, what are these ****ing opportunities? because to date nobody has explained exactly how Brexit hasn't been delivered properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    Anyone would think your fixated on immigration Tricky! And you still have to come up with how you would address the falling birth rate, an increasing older population and a consequent lack of workforce that will continue to stagnate the economy.

    In any case, these are actual quantifiable FACTS, not pie in the sky *******s fed to the credulous like yourself.

    Of course I would assume your all in favour of a compete change in economic thinking, where growth isn't the aim, but the creation of an equal sustainable economy, with the aim of reducing the gross inequality between those that have the wealth and those that don't, a fair and equitable division of the wealth generated by all, a tax system that favours redistribution and possibly a universal income?

    I do laugh whenever a Brexit voter or supporter, claims the failure of Brexit is down to the failure of this government to take the opportunities Brexit gave the UK. Please explain, what are these ****ing opportunities? because to date nobody has explained exactly how Brexit hasn't been delivered properly.
    Easy Swale, failure to stop immigration, innit? No border control, me owd. They should have employed DHL to do the delivery

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