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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Why do people cling to Socialism?
    It has been proven time and again to be a failed concept.

    Even the mother of it all, has collapsed beyond all recognition.
    The only ones embracing it, are now dictatorships. The stupid really are the stupid.
    William Morris and Leo Tolstoy were the true democratic socialists, not State Communism which was controlled by elites as is China today.

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    I could never work in the public sector, 15 weeks holiday a year/strike every week/constantly feel hard done by when we get our hours reduced by 15 minutes a week/38 hours a week with no chance of overtime/good pensions/retire at 55 due to ill health and get paid for it/break my foot and get 6 months on full pay and then go on F'ing strike again because we've had our wages cut by 50p a week,

    Nah sorry, far to easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by es***red52 View Post
    I could never work in the public sector, 15 weeks holiday a year/strike every week/constantly feel hard done by when we get our hours reduced by 15 minutes a week/38 hours a week with no chance of overtime/good pensions/retire at 55 due to ill health and get paid for it/break my foot and get 6 months on full pay and then go on F'ing strike again because we've had our wages cut by 50p a week,

    Nah sorry, far to easy
    That's your choice if you want to give surplus value to a tax dodger who is only willing to give you a zero hour contract thus preventing you from getting a foot on the property ladder. Thus forcing you to claim housing benefit, risk the stigma of being labelled a benefit cheat,even though most of the benefit will end up in the landlord's pocket. Even if your boss does value you and you do give him exceptional service,he will only keep you until your best before date, and then just before you retire you'll find out that he has raided your pension pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBasie View Post
    That's your choice if you want to give surplus value to a tax dodger who is only willing to give you a zero hour contract thus preventing you from getting a foot on the property ladder. Thus forcing you to claim housing benefit, risk the stigma of being labelled a benefit cheat,even though most of the benefit will end up in the landlord's pocket. Even if your boss does value you and you do give him exceptional service,he will only keep you until your best before date, and then just before you retire you'll find out that he has raided your pension pot.
    Jesus Basie, in a perfect world you're right. But also so wrong.

    Listening to you, sounds like the Russians in 1917. The Tzar and his family have it all. We have nothing,
    REVOLUTION AND THE PEOPLE GET IT ALL EQUALLY.
    Is that what happened for the next 100 years? Or did I miss something?
    Maybe the millions who dies under communist state control, went under the radar?
    You yearn for nationalisation, then spout your environmental ****. Just remind me, exactly how polluting were the national industries?

    However back to the BBC
    It is corrupt( wages/bonuses),/biased(self admitted left leanings and slaughtered by watch dogs)/ elitist pursuits for programmes/ fails to invest it's vast income on decent everyday programmes.
    I'll task you. Name me 5 decent comedy programmes, that attracted over 7 million viewers in the last 10 years.
    Remember the time it did them- Fools and horses/Dads army/Black adder/Red Dwarf/ etc.

    Now it's more interested in **** like strictly come dancing and covering some black lesbian oil drum band.
    The BBC should be neutral and open for all if it is to stay protected.
    The fact I hate them, is that I'm forced to buy a license to fund this drivel, when I care not for what it produces,
    The law needs amending. It's a perpetual gravy train to get away with murder and give ****s like Gary Lineker, 5 million quid a year to spout the obvious.
    The day this lot has to fund it's own way in the world, then you'll a change in attitude and direction.

    **** beyond belief and the excuses to protect it do not match up. If ever there was a vote on this, watch it topple over night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBasie View Post
    That's your choice if you want to give surplus value to a tax dodger who is only willing to give you a zero hour contract thus preventing you from getting a foot on the property ladder. Thus forcing you to claim housing benefit, risk the stigma of being labelled a benefit cheat,even though most of the benefit will end up in the landlord's pocket. Even if your boss does value you and you do give him exceptional service,he will only keep you until your best before date, and then just before you retire you'll find out that he has raided your pension pot.
    Tell me Basie, you're retired. Did you retire at 65 on a state pension. Or are you one of the protected privileged who finished earlier than that on a final salary pension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Jesus Basie, in a perfect world you're right. But also so wrong.

    Listening to you, sounds like the Russians in 1917. The Tzar and his family have it all. We have nothing,
    REVOLUTION AND THE PEOPLE GET IT ALL EQUALLY.
    Is that what happened for the next 100 years? Or did I miss something?
    Maybe the millions who dies under communist state control, went under the radar?
    You yearn for nationalisation, then spout your environmental ****. Just remind me, exactly how polluting were the national industries?

    However back to the BBC
    It is corrupt( wages/bonuses),/biased(self admitted left leanings and slaughtered by watch dogs)/ elitist pursuits for programmes/ fails to invest it's vast income on decent everyday programmes.
    I'll task you. Name me 5 decent comedy programmes, that attracted over 7 million viewers in the last 10 years.
    Remember the time it did them- Fools and horses/Dads army/Black adder/Red Dwarf/ etc.

    Now it's more interested in **** like strictly come dancing and covering some black lesbian oil drum band.
    The BBC should be neutral and open for all if it is to stay protected.
    The fact I hate them, is that I'm forced to buy a license to fund this drivel, when I care not for what it produces,
    The law needs amending. It's a perpetual gravy train to get away with murder and give ****s like Gary Lineker, 5 million quid a year to spout the obvious.
    The day this lot has to fund it's own way in the world, then you'll a change in attitude and direction.

    **** beyond belief and the excuses to protect it do not match up. If ever there was a vote on this, watch it topple over night.
    Just a few comments at random on what you have just said.

    1. Establish what the perfect world should be and head in that direction and not away from it.

    2. Since the onset of the industrial revolution we have never had any socialist countries, only in name. Spain made a brave attempt which was wiped out by the Fascists.

    3. Not in favour of nationalisation, but more devolution to the regions and local accountability. Like producing locally for local needs and working nearer to your place of work and reducing the miles that people and goods have to travel.

    4. At least Theresa May is having serious doubts about restoring our discredited Nuclear Power programme. That will cut down the nuclear waste future generations will have to contain for the next few thousand years. Although existing installations still remain as an attractive target for terrorists.

    5. I agree with you about those TV comedy programmes. Haven't a clue why they are no longer produced. Our sense of humour must be a generational thing and we are getting old.

    6. I also agree about Gary Lineker and the tax avoidance schemes he and other top earners employ. You mention 5 million a year , but isn't what the BBC have to pay to compete with ITV.

    7. I prefer to listen Radio 4. No doubt you have objections about that, but apart from BBC World Service it is one of the few networks that is not committed to playing recycled music all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Tell me Basie, you're retired. Did you retire at 65 on a state pension. Or are you one of the protected privileged who finished earlier than that on a final salary pension?
    I retired at 70, although I drew my state pension at 65. My occupational pension would have been final salaried had I not been made redundant years earlier. I severed connections with the company who made me redundant and transferred my pension to a well known financial institution and then paid to them an additional premium to restore my pension to what it would have been had I not been made redundant and continued to work for the same company until retirement.

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    To be honest I haven't got a pension or ever paid into one, I'll just use my savings, as long as my house is settled up before I'm 48/50 I'll be happy and as it stands I'm on course to do that, I'm 43 now,
    The minute I save up to 30K then that's me done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by es***red52 View Post
    To be honest I haven't got a pension or ever paid into one, I'll just use my savings, as long as my house is settled up before I'm 48/50 I'll be happy and as it stands I'm on course to do that, I'm 43 now,
    The minute I save up to 30K then that's me done.
    How many years do you expect your 30k to last. 30k is not a lot, especially if inflation ever kicks off again seventies style. It might just do that now we are entering the unchartered waters of Brexit.

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