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    The Tories who got us into this mess are so busy infighting we will be unable to meet any timetable because of the political impotence in Westminster.

    Can someone remind me why the so called Tory/DUP alliance cannot produce a reasonable solution to free movement of goods and Irish nationals in Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    The Tories who got us into this mess are so busy infighting we will be unable to meet any timetable because of the political impotence in Westminster.

    Can someone remind me why the so called Tory/DUP alliance cannot produce a reasonable solution to free movement of goods and Irish nationals in Ireland?

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    Nowhere near as simple as your man suggests Sinkov.

    At the end of the transition period (if there is one) will there be an hard border or not? Well, there WILL if we leave the customs union. Theresa May insists that we ARE leaving it.

    I think the article below is much more balanced than the one you linked.

    "You can leave the customs union or you can have a frictionless border in Northern Ireland - tick one box - there is no option for both."
    "I'm all for flexible and imaginative solutions but not illusory ones."

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-36217012.html

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    I don't think he's suggesting it's simple 59-60, simply that there are solutions to this difficult problem. I notice in the Irish paper they're talking about the difficulty of trying to make progress on the border issuewhile the EU refuses to discuss trade. Yet again it's EU intransigence that's the problem, their complete unwillingness to address problems and come up with solutions.

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    From today's Guardian:

    The 10 Democratic Unionist party MPs, upon whose votes May relies for a Commons majority, have made it clear to government whips that they would not accept a “no deal” outcome because it would mean a return to a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic. If May were to try to push such an approach, the deal with the DUP that keeps her in power could fall.

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    It says something about the political class that governments and civil servants of 28 different countries, plus the huge political resources of the EU, are incapable of coming up with a satisfactory solution to the Irish border problem. Is it really such a difficult problem to solve ? Come on FFS, it's fifty years since we put a man on the moon.

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    Sinkov, what is the alternative to a hard border?

    If there is no border then EU migrants can enter the UK via Ireland. And how do taxes get collected?

    But...a hard border would be just dreadful.

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    Sinkov, what is the alternative to a hard border?

    If there is no border then EU migrants can enter the UK via Ireland. And how do taxes get collected?

    But...a hard border would be just dreadful.
    It's a conundrum wrapped around an enigma as old man Churchill would have said!

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    Latest YouGov poll...

    Regret Brexit 47%
    Happy with Brexit 42%

    Just saying, like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    Latest YouGov poll...

    Regret Brexit 47%
    Happy with Brexit 42%

    Just saying, like.

    #AlfiesunofficialPoll Taken in east lancs

    Regret Brexit 0%
    Happy with Brexit 100%

    Just saying like

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