Labour rejects its voters with Brexit plans

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Looks like Brexit may be about to unravel.

As Alto said, what is the point of leaving if bugger all changes?

If a few Tory rebels join with the Lib Dems, Labour, SNP , Plaid Cymru, then, in effect, we will remain.

Good news in my opinion, but Labour will pay a heavy price.

It seems to me like the EU's Michael Barnier, Sabine Weyand, Donald Tusk and top dog Juncker might just be able to negotiate with a pragmatic socialist in the mould of Jeremy Corbyn.
They seem to be fed up and bored with trying to deal with Maybot and her cronies.

[1959_60]

Flipping heck Mr Pedantic:

A customs union is defined as a group of states that have agreed to eliminate customs duties (import taxes) on trade between themselves, as well as reduce other administrative requirements.

Can you be clear then BT?

Is Corbyn saying that we should remain in THE customs union?

Or is he saying that he want's us to be in A customs union?

Massive difference - I was not being pedantic.

[Norder]

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oh look.......it's here again - more good cop bad cop mind manipulating message adjustment - to limit the perspective and influence the brainwash bias of manufactured consent.



**** em !

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Can you be clear then BT?

Is Corbyn saying that we should remain in THE customs union?

Or is he saying that he want's us to be in A customs union?

Massive difference - I was not being pedantic.

I put A in bold so that you could ascertain the difference between a Customs Union and the Customs Union.

We can't be in the Customs Union because we will no longer be a member of the EU (quite right too!) but we can be part of a Customs Union like countries such as San Marino, Andorra and Turkey are.

We would however still be bound by the EU's deal with the World Trade Organisation but at least the "Ireland problem" would evaporate!

[1959_60]

I have just heard an interview with him.

What he wants would not be acceptable to the EU. He wants all the benefits of the current customs union, plus other bits that the rest of the 27 can't have. It's never going to happen. He will soon be supporting the current customs union...watch this space.

He also wants to stay in the various EU regulatory bodies which are governed by the ECJ.

His stance is getting very near to being a remainer - but he can't quite say it.

He has now disenfranchised loads of his voters by adopting this policy.

[oldcolner]

Let’s enjoy watching this unravel.
Britain to have say in EU negotiations after Brexit lolz. At least Frank Field talks sense.

[Deadlydave]

Please explain to me why I should bother to vote in the future?????? What part of leaving don't these elitist swine understand. Corbyn has stood with the Fabian leftists of London Town. I hope the traditional working class OF THE "CRAPPY NORTHERN TOWNS" to coin the lefts font of all knowledge the Guardian would state turn on this Marxist opportunist and kick his backside. There really is no point in voting to change anything. so it's tory progressive lite or Corbyn Progressive a la Marxist; take your pick.

[Balanbam00]

Its no good letting others choose what's good for you ,and everybody else. Fed up! Then start to think differently. Because ''they ' have is so good so why should they change ? We could go on for another 100 years like this!! What will your children's children think of you. So change it.

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"Revolution always takes place around a sentiment. If there is no strong common sentiment, a revolution cannot take place. Sentiment is always stronger than logic.

Communism propagates sentiments like workers of the world unite. Initially, people were attracted to such sentiments, but after some time they discovered that they were hollow, consequently intellectuals became dissatisfied with them. Communism is now unable to fight against the local sentiments that are coming up in different parts of the world because these sentiments are stronger than communist sentiments.

PROUT is based on a universal sentiment which is applicable for the whole cosmological order, and it is systematically moving towards the implementation of this sentiment. Who will make the local people conscious of their local sentiments keeping universalism in mind? Only PROUT can do this. Communists have no such idea. Only PROUT can tackle all local sentiments and lead everyone in the world to universalism by gradual stages.

Revolutionaries must be well-versed in arousing the sentiments of the people and channelizing the sentimental legacy of the society towards universalism. During the preparation for revolution, unstinting effort must go into arousing the sentimental legacy of the people, because sentiments inspire popular support for the cause of revolution, and infuse the revolutionary workers with tremendous power and conviction.

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Negative sentiments should never be used to divide people into castes and communities – to create artificial fissiparous tendencies in society. Rather, they should always be used to bring unity amongst people. Hitler used racism in an effort to unite the German people and he succeeded in the short-term, but because he used negative sentiments only and had no positive sentiments, his approach resulted in a world war and the near destruction of Germany. The path of negativity is extremely dangerous and harmful for society. Positive sentiments are the real weapons to build society. This must never be forgotten under any circumstances."
(- Shrii P.R Sarkar. Nuclear Revolution. 1969,)