World cup squad

[pboromag]

Tbh I haven't given a flying feck about Engerland since I saw the loons who followed them in the 70/80s smashing everyone and everything when they travelled abroad. Newcastle for me every time. Engerland are alongside Sland as the laughing stock. Looking at that squad there is no one who can pick a pass in the midfield so if Vardy is playing the forward passes for him to utilise his pace will be non-existent. As for CB none of those picked have played any better than Lascelles. Pfft Stones hasn't he been out most of the season?

Ill laugh mysell daft when they are knocked out in the early stages again. Stress free summer.

and newcastle fans never smashed any thing up
pheck we set light to a fan and killed a sunderland fan
will that stop you following the toon

[pboromag]

a reason soutgate didnt pick shelvey for me is simple
under pressure and tracking back shelvey doesnt do it
pinging a ball 30-40 yards there arent many better in england

but more teams play the pressing game and i just cant see his long balls working like that

the further he drops to pick the ball up the further up the field the opposition can press

under pressure he snaps

and we wont win a world cup or games with 10 on the field at this level

[HughieG]

a reason soutgate didnt pick shelvey for me is simple
under pressure and tracking back shelvey doesnt do it
pinging a ball 30-40 yards there arent many better in england

but more teams play the pressing game and i just cant see his long balls working like that

the further he drops to pick the ball up the further up the field the opposition can press

under pressure he snaps

and we wont win a world cup or games with 10 on the field at this level

Not true at all. He's obviously matured as a footballer this season. He's not a master defensively, but is that why Southgate should take him to the WC? To defend? Seems to me he needs someone who can do the opposite.

Does he have a temper? Yes, and that may result in a red card. But that goes for almost all footballers in the world. It's happened with him one or two times too many, but he doesn't just snap under pressure.

[Geordie1974]

That Deli Ali isn't a red card and a cheating diving get is he.Livermore on stand by.Nicked a taxi in Spain and tested positive for cocaine in the past.
Never mind though.Let the lads enjoy a holiday and let the soft southern monkeys follow England around Russia.

[toptoon]

a reason soutgate didnt pick shelvey for me is simple
under pressure and tracking back shelvey doesnt do it
pinging a ball 30-40 yards there arent many better in england

but more teams play the pressing game and i just cant see his long balls working like that

the further he drops to pick the ball up the further up the field the opposition can press

under pressure he snaps

and we wont win a world cup or games with 10 on the field at this level

Even if this was right, with 20 minutes to go, England needing a goal and the opposition tiring, I can't think of anyone else I'd rather bring off the bench just now.

[MidsMagpie]

why would they be

both are not good enough for england
both decent players
but not for england at the moment

And Loftus Cheek and Alexander Arnold are

[pboromag]

And Loftus Cheek and Alexander Arnold are

nope but every manager will take some young blood

[pboromag]

Even if this was right, with 20 minutes to go, England needing a goal and the opposition tiring, I can't think of anyone else I'd rather bring off the bench just now.

I cant see how southgate is wrong but nearly every other manager also didn't want him or consider him long term or for tournaments

the problem you have when you bring him on is you leave great big wholes behind him when he goes walking around looking for the ball

also most world class teams can sit deep and stop him pinging long balls in the last 20 minutes

I would prefer to bring someone on who could carry the ball and run at tired defenders etc

[pboromag]

Not true at all. He's obviously matured as a footballer this season. He's not a master defensively, but is that why Southgate should take him to the WC? To defend? Seems to me he needs someone who can do the opposite.

Does he have a temper? Yes, and that may result in a red card. But that goes for almost all footballers in the world. It's happened with him one or two times too many, but he doesn't just snap under pressure.

I just don't feel his temperament is right for tourney footy
under pressure for several weeks away from home etc
he does need attacking players
but he has those in abundance with wing backs etc etc

[HughieG]

I just don't feel his temperament is right for tourney footy
under pressure for several weeks away from home etc
he does need attacking players
but he has those in abundance with wing backs etc etc

His temperament is fine for 'tourney footy'. I would agree that for a guy his age, 4 Premier League red cards is way too much and in many ways not okay. Compare that to other players in his position (Henderson: 1, Delph: 1, Dier: 0, Dele Alli: 0 though it's a joke he's never had one).

But to draw the conclusion that he would get a rise in temper just by playing in the World Cup is a bit far fetched IMO. I think he'd be fine. He'd know what arena he's playing in.