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Thread: OT. Shamima Begum

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    SoRRy about that, try this one...... https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...AkC3yCpfOgzNew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    dead link, time for new conspiracy theory

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/231521
    I got a Rick Astley youtube vid

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    ****, sooner have the terrorist back than that

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    Well there goes her leverage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Well there goes her leverage
    3 in 3 years. I feel for the boy she has just lost. He didn't ask to be born into a hell hole. She, after losing 2 already surely should have not wanted a 3rd one born into the exact same conditions that kiled the first 2.

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    Have Bangladesh refused her citizenship yet?

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    Hope nobody accepts her..... She can stay in the camp for good for all I care

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    I have no sympathy for anyone who supports an entity that threatens my/our peaceful lives, so no sympathy for her but her baby was an innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I have no sympathy for anyone who supports an entity that threatens my/our peaceful lives, so no sympathy for her but her baby was an innocent.
    Oh dear, its so simple isn't it? I'm jolly glad none of you have nay say in running the UK!

    Yes has made abhorrent statement, yes she made the decision to go to Syria. But the case for returning her and dealing with her via the police and the courts is clear. The counter-terrorism strategy issued by the government last year, which includes the example of a British woman who travelled to join Isis and now has a newborn baby coming back to the UK. It is also established through the way other returning Isis recruits, including fighters, who have been dealt with in the courts; she doesn't pose a particular risk, only that she has a higher and more embarrassing profile. Plus she was groomed, left the UK as a minor and has experienced significant trauma.

    But above on beyond that, she is (was) a British citizen, she is our problem and if Britain is to have any standing in the world as a decent democratic country it needs to accept responsibility for her and deal with her.

    Arguably the decision is wrong under International law, because she has been left stateless (her entitlement to Bangladeshi citizenship is dubious at best), and under the UN Convention, to which the Uk is a signatory, leaving a person stateless is illegal.

    I understand the sentiments, but really do we want to go back to the days of lynch mob mentality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    Oh dear, its so simple isn't it? I'm jolly glad none of you have nay say in running the UK!

    Yes has made abhorrent statement, yes she made the decision to go to Syria. But the case for returning her and dealing with her via the police and the courts is clear. The counter-terrorism strategy issued by the government last year, which includes the example of a British woman who travelled to join Isis and now has a newborn baby coming back to the UK. It is also established through the way other returning Isis recruits, including fighters, who have been dealt with in the courts; she doesn't pose a particular risk, only that she has a higher and more embarrassing profile. Plus she was groomed, left the UK as a minor and has experienced significant trauma.

    But above on beyond that, she is (was) a British citizen, she is our problem and if Britain is to have any standing in the world as a decent democratic country it needs to accept responsibility for her and deal with her.

    Arguably the decision is wrong under International law, because she has been left stateless (her entitlement to Bangladeshi citizenship is dubious at best), and under the UN Convention, to which the Uk is a signatory, leaving a person stateless is illegal.

    I understand the sentiments, but really do we want to go back to the days of lynch mob mentality?
    Yes we know all that, or at least I do, my opinion is the same. As I've stated many times before though, people like SB are one thing, blinkered apologists for them just as bad
    Last edited by Andy_Faber; 10-03-2019 at 11:37 PM.

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