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    Disgacefull!

    The gazzillions swimming around in the English Premier league ... Scum pay a Sanchez nearly half a fecking million quid a week to sit on the bench/play for the reserves...go on holiday...Average players in the Premier league earning £3+ million a year...

    Two of our oldest clubs - founder members in fact - one gone the other going, One week of Sanchez's pay would have kept Bury afloat for two years FFS!!

    I understand that the Premier league is a big draw and gets the Sky pie, But surely the likes of Scum, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool to name a few could cough up a little bit of their mega riches to keep our grass roots game going?

    Absolutely disgusting that this is happening.

    The EFL / EPL should get closer and work out a way of dividing the untold TV riches a little more fairly?

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    Bad for the communitys (£££s) as well as the fans who go week in and week out..too much greed at the top and the EFL/EPL are the biggest set of corrupt conts around as WE know only too well!

    I feel for with fans of both clubs..it could have very easily happened to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tichi1 View Post
    The gazzillions swimming around in the English Premier league ... Scum pay a Sanchez nearly half a fecking million quid a week to sit on the bench/play for the reserves...go on holiday...Average players in the Premier league earning £3+ million a year...

    Two of our oldest clubs - founder members in fact - one gone the other going, One week of Sanchez's pay would have kept Bury afloat for two years FFS!!

    I understand that the Premier league is a big draw and gets the Sky pie, But surely the likes of Scum, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool to name a few could cough up a little bit of their mega riches to keep our grass roots game going?

    Absolutely disgusting that this is happening.

    The EFL / EPL should get closer and work out a way of dividing the untold TV riches a little more fairly?
    You said a short while ago that there weren't many things we would agree on. Well, this is certainly one of the few......but (yeah, always a but!)........isn't that greedy, over-paid, insular, fantasy league where we all want our club to be? And if we get there, do you think our owner (whoever that might be at any point in time) would behave honourably, as you suggest (and I agree) they should?

    Part of me wishes we were in the PL, but for all the unfairness in this division, (parachute payments for failed PL clubs, FFP rules that fail to control PL excesses etc), a big(ger?) part thinks it's more honest, fairer and more true to what the game used to be (and still could/should be) than the PL will ever be any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    You said a short while ago that there weren't many things we would agree on. Well, this is certainly one of the few......but (yeah, always a but!)........isn't that greedy, over-paid, insular, fantasy league where we all want our club to be? And if we get there, do you think our owner (whoever that might be at any point in time) would behave honourably, as you suggest (and I agree) they should?

    Part of me wishes we were in the PL, but for all the unfairness in this division, (parachute payments for failed PL clubs, FFP rules that fail to control PL excesses etc), a big(ger?) part thinks it's more honest, fairer and more true to what the game used to be (and still could/should be) than the PL will ever be any time soon.
    Wtf you forgot to mention that more english man play in the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozleeds View Post
    Wtf you forgot to mention that more english man play in the championship.
    Maybe they do, maybe they dont, for once I declare I don't give a sh1t. The honour of the game is what drove the original post, not the nationality of a player or a group of players of any one club.

    It won't change anything, money is the great god, not the "beautiful game". That died with the advent of the Premiership and the baleful presence of Sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tichi1 View Post
    The gazzillions swimming around in the English Premier league ... Scum pay a Sanchez nearly half a fecking million quid a week to sit on the bench/play for the reserves...go on holiday...Average players in the Premier league earning £3+ million a year...

    Two of our oldest clubs - founder members in fact - one gone the other going, One week of Sanchez's pay would have kept Bury afloat for two years FFS!!

    I understand that the Premier league is a big draw and gets the Sky pie, But surely the likes of Scum, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool to name a few could cough up a little bit of their mega riches to keep our grass roots game going?

    Absolutely disgusting that this is happening.

    The EFL / EPL should get closer and work out a way of dividing the untold TV riches a little more fairly?
    the writing has been on the wall for ages. There was a report written a while back by Deloitte part of which said there were too many clubs in the football league surviving on too little revenue. It predicted some would go to the wall and it is now starting to happen. If clubs outgoings exceed income and there is no rich benefactor then insolvency beckons.

    If clubs mean that much to a community then you would expect attendances to reflect that. I think Bury averaged about 4000 fans at home which makes it a struggle without said benefactor.

    The EPL money is crazy but the way the established models work there is no incentive to support the lower leagues and on one level why should they support an unsustainable model?

    I think we all have a similar opinion of the EFL and it’s ability to run and manage things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    the writing has been on the wall for ages. There was a report written a while back by Deloitte part of which said there were too many clubs in the football league surviving on too little revenue. It predicted some would go to the wall and it is now starting to happen. If clubs outgoings exceed income and there is no rich benefactor then insolvency beckons.

    If clubs mean that much to a community then you would expect attendances to reflect that. I think Bury averaged about 4000 fans at home which makes it a struggle without said benefactor.

    The EPL money is crazy but the way the established models work there is no incentive to support the lower leagues and on one level why should they support an unsustainable model?

    I think we all have a similar opinion of the EFL and it’s ability to run and manage things.
    So "f00k everyone else who isn't rich enough to survive"?

    How do you post here with that nickname?

    Disgraceful (to put it mildly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    So "f00k everyone else who isn't rich enough to survive"?

    How do you post here with that nickname?

    Disgraceful (to put it mildly)
    not disagreeing with anyone else directly but pointing this has been brewing for ages and in this day and age why would the prem bail the efl clubs out as they don’t need or rely on them. Not for a minute saying I condone or am happy about it but that is the reality.

    As ever you play the man not the ball.

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    It's a really difficult one, because how would you actually implement a 'rich PL supporting poor smaller clubs' rule? Give every club in the lower leagues a fixed amount? Have a 'bail out' fund? Either way, clubs would then just overspend either over and above their current income plus their 'PL donation', or spend recklessly knowing that the 'bail out fund' was there to save them if they fked it up.

    No I think the major blame lies on the EFL, their ownership tests must be much more rigorous - for example they will only allow a takeover if the new owner signs a contract to state that all existing debts will be met (i.e. none of this 'buy it for a pound' BS). But even then the EFL will probably struggle because a lot of this is actually down to business rules. I suspect that if the EFL did try to do something like that it would be challenged in court because currently there is no law to control how businesses are bought and sold (anyone remember BHS?), and so, as most league clubs are also limited companies, any attempt to curtail how clubs (i.e. football businesses) are bought and sold would be very difficult to enforce.

    So whilst the answers, and the blame apportioning, seem obvious, because football clubs are actually just businesses like any other, it's really not that simple at all.

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    Would like to see sky take their money out of football (never gonna happen) and see how many prima Donnas stay at their oh so wonderful kiss the badge clubs, zilch!

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