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    I'll be amazed if the Tories can't win by a healthy majority against the communist Corbynistas whose proposed policies are truly frightening. Many Labour voters are fearful of Venezuela Mark 2 and will probably abstain rather than vote Tory. It will be interesting how Nigel Farage tackles this but i expect a low turnout.

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    If this is all about "getting brexit done", I can't really get my head around the fact that Johnson got approval for his deal and although it might have gone a couple of weeks past his precious 31st, why didn't he just allow scrutiny and then a vote to get that deal approved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    If this is all about "getting brexit done", I can't really get my head around the fact that Johnson got approval for his deal and although it might have gone a couple of weeks past his precious 31st, why didn't he just allow scrutiny and then a vote to get that deal approved?
    He was concerned about the amendments that Parliament would seek to make to the bill - attaching a confirmatory referendum and the like - and that some MPs would withdraw their support at the third reading if itheir favoured amendment(s) did not succeed.

    I don't know who I am going to vote for and suspect that I won't be alone in that. The worry has to be that we will be left with another minority government and further inertia.

    At least the poll is on a Thursday though. Having Friday off after my election night 'do' makes more sense.

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    Massive respect to the lib dems for being the only party with a clear message on Brexit, while all the other parties are hedging their bets and trying to schmooze a vote out of everyone by being vague.

    Voted Labour all my life but the Lib dems are much more Socialist now than the elite middle class bigots of the Labour party.

    I voted leave but I will vote Lib Dems for the first time simply because they have got the
    b alls to put their cards on the table.

    Hopefully the Labour party will be destroyed once and for all and a new party for working people, run by working people will emerge from the ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
    Massive respect to the lib dems for being the only party with a clear message on Brexit, while all the other parties are hedging their bets and trying to schmooze a vote out of everyone by being vague.

    Voted Labour all my life but the Lib dems are much more Socialist now than the elite middle class bigots of the Labour party.

    I voted leave but I will vote Lib Dems for the first time simply because they have got the
    b alls to put their cards on the table.

    Hopefully the Labour party will be destroyed once and for all and a new party for working people, run by working people will emerge from the ashes.
    But the Lib Dems keep spouting democracy when they are adamant on acting against what the majority voted for, this to me is a "we know better than you' attitude.

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    I never thought that l would ever be so far detached from the Labour party than I am.

    Really, when you look back at the Labour parties leadership election and the way Tories joined the labour party to have the right to vote they sure as hell did a fantastic job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
    Massive respect to the lib dems for being the only party with a clear message on Brexit, while all the other parties are hedging their bets and trying to schmooze a vote out of everyone by being vague.

    Voted Labour all my life but the Lib dems are much more Socialist now than the elite middle class bigots of the Labour party.

    I voted leave but I will vote Lib Dems for the first time.
    The lib dems only declared their hand about revolking brexit to win cheap votes because it,s the only way they will get marginally more votes than their usual paltry amounts. Hopefully the voting public will have seen right through their insincere tactics
    I know you like a good wind up so i,ll assume you,re doing it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    The lib dems only declared their hand about revolking brexit to win cheap votes because it,s the only way they will get marginally more votes than their usual paltry amounts. Hopefully the voting public will have seen right through their insincere tactics
    I know you like a good wind up so i,ll assume you,re doing it again
    The 2015 Lib Dem manifesto committed the party to campaigning to remain in the EU, whilst the 2017 manifesto committed to trying to achieve that by holding a further referendum with the strap line 'Every vote for the Liberal Democrats is a vote to stop Brexit'.

    You can criticise the Lib Dems for lots of things, but inconsistency on the EU isn't one them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    The 2015 Lib Dem manifesto committed the party to campaigning to remain in the EU, whilst the 2017 manifesto committed to trying to achieve that by holding a further referendum with the strap line 'Every vote for the Liberal Democrats is a vote to stop Brexit'.

    You can criticise the Lib Dems for lots of things, but inconsistency on the EU isn't one them.
    They may have wanted to stay in the EU but their robust statements about completely revolking Brexit without even a referendum is a very recent stance and there,s a huge difference between what they are trying to do now.
    That isn,t consistent.
    Cheap votes and very shallow

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson View Post
    Massive respect to the lib dems for being the only party with a clear message on Brexit, while all the other parties are hedging their bets and trying to schmooze a vote out of everyone by being vague.

    Voted Labour all my life but the Lib dems are much more Socialist now than the elite middle class bigots of the Labour party.

    I voted leave but I will vote Lib Dems for the first time simply because they have got the
    b alls to put their cards on the table.

    Hopefully the Labour party will be destroyed once and for all and a new party for working people, run by working people will emerge from the ashes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXgV6BY2qWY

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