The Corona Virus

[oldcolner]

33,740 the official figure given, today the number is down to 27,301, that's 6,439 fewer Covid cases, a 20% reduction in one day, we're clearly over the worst.

Hope so but swallows and summers dnd chicKen counting come to mind

Highest deaths ever worldwide at 10000 yesterday says otherwise

[oldcolner]

Looking ii ke we are getting a full lockdown next week though cases have been falling for a while. Nicola is such a sadist. She gives you bad news days early then when the time comes might not do it.
She should be locked in a pub.

[Norder]

Drs only report suspicious deaths to the coroner?
If you add in deaths attributed to COVID over 28 days after a positive test you can add another 10k to the total, that would include anyone on a ventilator.

as the test is of nugatory value - what are it's results worth?

You’re really scraping the barrel now quoting 1935 you must have been there. I was referring to the 50s and the Salk vaccines grown on monkey cells and killed having to be injected four doses then replaced in 1960 by an oral live Sabin form. Two doses. Lots of people got protection from Salk for the 5 year gap.

it was yourself that mentioned the Polio vaccine - how was I to know you had rules that restricted my response to a certain period

You certainly do research to find things to back what you want to find.

as do many thousands of Medical Professionals or any number who take time to research it ?...all lopsided idiots in your book it seems.

This vaccine won’t be approved unless it passes regulatory tests and no manufacturer these days would let a faulty product on to the market because of the litigation risks.

The Human Medicine Regulations 2012 allows for the licensing authority to temporarily authorise the supply of an unlicensed product in response to certain public health threats, including the suspected spread of pathogens.Bozena Michalowska, a partner specialising in product liability at the law firm Leigh Day, said, “I do not believe that people will want to play Russian roulette with their health by taking a vaccine which they know nothing about, Peter Todd, a partner specialising in vaccine injury claims at solicitors Hodge Jones and Allen, said, “The fact that there has never yet been a successful vaccine against a coronavirus, coupled with some proposed covid-19 vaccines having novel mechanisms of efficacy and a very short period of clinical testing, means that there could be some additional risks in these circumstances which may put people off

[The Bedlington Terrier]

“The fact that there has never yet been a successful vaccine against a coronavirus, coupled with some proposed covid-19 vaccines having novel mechanisms of efficacy and a very short period of clinical testing, means that there could be some additional risks in these circumstances which may put people off".


Spot on.

[oldcolner]

as the test is of nugatory value - what are it's results worth?
Trend monitoring
it was yourself that mentioned the Polio vaccine - how was I to know you had rules that restricted my response to a certain period
No one ever talks of 1935 polio vaccine - and there weren’t two available then
as do many thousands of Medical Professionals or any number who take time to research it ?...all lopsided idiots in your book it seems.

The Human Medicine Regulations 2012 allows for the licensing authority to temporarily authorise the supply of an unlicensed product in response to certain public health threats, including the suspected spread of pathogens.Bozena Michalowska, a partner specialising in product liability at the law firm Leigh Day, said, “I do not believe that people will want to play Russian roulette with their health by taking a vaccine which they know nothing about, Peter Todd, a partner specialising in vaccine injury claims at solicitors Hodge Jones and Allen, said, “The fact that there has never yet been a successful vaccine against a coronavirus, coupled with some proposed covid-19 vaccines having novel mechanisms of efficacy and a very short period of clinical testing, means that there could be some additional risks in these circumstances which may put people off

You’re out of date and wrong again

2020 regulations Human Medicines (Coronavirus and Influenza) (Amendment) Regulations 2020.were passed in October

These
do not create powers to rush through development of a vaccine. Any vaccine authorised for use will have been through extensive clinical trials and a thorough assessment of the evidence on safety, efficacy and quality

do not create powers to rollout an untested vaccine for the UK population

Don’t let the facts change your opinion.
Lol

[oldcolner]

“The fact that there has never yet been a successful vaccine against a coronavirus, coupled with some proposed covid-19 vaccines having novel mechanisms of efficacy and a very short period of clinical testing, means that there could be some additional risks in these circumstances which may put people off".


Spot on.

Can’t argue that SOME people MAY be put off it’s their choice.
These are Ambulance chasers looking for business.Not a very strong case for girding loins is it?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I'm too busy preparing and strengthening myself for what is yet to come from our totally unfit for purpose Cabal of Cabinet Minister Conservative and Unionist Cretins to worry too much about the possible consequences of my refusal to be injected with a cocktail of untried, untested chemicals OC.

[sinkov]

I'm too busy preparing and strengthening myself for what is yet to come from our totally unfit for purpose Cabal of Cabinet Minister Conservative and Unionist Cretins to worry too much about the possible consequences of my refusal to be injected with a cocktail of untried, untested chemicals OC.

Don't think you, or me, will get away with it BT, we won't. Besides the requirement to have a vax certificate to travel, there are now proposals that you will need one to attend a football match, a theatre or cinema, and even eating out in a restaurant. 1984 never really arrived when it was supposed to, but it's almost here now.

[oldcolner]

I'm too busy preparing and strengthening myself for what is yet to come from our totally unfit for purpose Cabal of Cabinet Minister Conservative and Unionist Cretins to worry too much about the possible consequences of my refusal to be injected with a cocktail of untried, untested chemicals OC.

You keep on about untried, untested chemicals BT
45000 people have had it and more are getting it. At what point will you accept these have been tried and tested. 100k 1 million.....
whatever you chose we will soon be there worldwide
RNA is not a chemical either!
Don’t let the facts interfere with your opinion.
Lol

[1959_60]

Over 50,000 deaths now (probably over 60,000 in reality) in the last nine months. And still the worst three months of the year to come for this type of virus. We could be near 100,000 deaths in a calendar year by March.
For those of you who claim that the figures are not unusual in a normal year, please show me a year when the deaths from flu approached these levels.

The pandemic has resulted in an unparalleled worldwide response in trying to find a vaccine. I am not surprised in the least that the "experts" have delivered the goods, and I am more than confident that if it gets the green light then it will be safe.

Given the scale and nastiness of the virus I will certainly take it, but it will be up to each individual whether they have it. I read somewhere that 25% of the population won't take it. this may reduce when it finally gets a clean bill of health.

But there will still be a group of people who will refuse. Their choice. If they calculate that the odds of a serious side effect are greater that getting covid then I won't try to convince them. If they won't listen to the "experts" what chance does a bloke on the internet have? Trouble is, they are getting their info from other blokes on the internet to make their decision.