The Corona Virus

[1959_60]

Well I was really worried last week because they changed my blood pressure medication that had been controlling everything for 17 years.
Within days my blood pressure had gone up to 200/110 on a daily basis. I was due an appointment with the nurse after one week to see how things were and she was apoplectic at the reading and got the doctor to ring me at home within the hour. Guess what, he put me back on the original medication and within two days my blood pressure was 135/78 and has remained so.

My question is, had I had a stroke and eded up in hospital, been tested for Covid, found positive and then died ---would I have been a victim of Covid or a victim of the pharmacist who insisted that a change of medication would be ideal?
Just asking --because I am 74 in a couple of weeks time!

I'm just glad that your're fighting fit again mate.

[sinkov]

You are aware people are dying all the time 59, aren't you ? I sometimes wonder, last year 496,370 people died in England alone, that's more than the entire population of Morecambe, Lancaster, Preston and Blackpool put together, all gone in just one year.

Most of those who died from, or more accurately, with Covid, were over 80 and not in the best of health, if Covid hadn't got them, if indeed it did, something else would have taken the vast majority of them very soon anyway. Just being alive at all is a deadly business, fatality rate of 100% I believe, or perhaps you've discovered the secret of eternal life ?

[sinkov]

Sinkov
Again I say it’s not just deaths the vaccine prevents.


This is a review of long COVID


https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.c...irstPass=false

It includes these.

scientists at King’s College London, found that around 1 in 7 patients had COVID-19 symptoms lasting for at least 4 weeks, around 1 in 20 were ill for 8 weeks and 1 in 50 experienced symptoms for more than 12 weeks[3]. It suggested that long COVID affects around 10% of people aged 18-49 years who become unwell with COVID-19, and 22% of those aged 70 years or over.

the first peer-reviewed study of the condition, published in JAMA in July 2020, Italian researchers found that 87.4% of patients reported at least one persistent symptom an average of 60 days after their initial COVID-19 diagnosis and 55.0% had three or more persistent symptoms[2].

Fatigue, shortness of breath, headaches, and joint and muscular pain are among the most common symptoms.

A report, published by the British Society for Immunology on 13 August 2020, said that the SARS-CoV-2 virus (the virus that causes COVID-19 infection) may cause long-term damage to different organs through a variety of mechanisms; direct effects of viral infection and tissue damage; excessive inflammation and subsequent damage; post-viral autoimmunity; and complications emerging from the formation of blood clots.

1 in 50 of 66 million diagnosed is going to have long term consequences for us all.

That's all well and good OC, doesn't negate my point though, in fact it's not even relevant to my point, which is that a virus which kills less than 1% of those infected cannot be described as deadly.

[1959_60]

You are aware people are dying all the time 59, aren't you ? I sometimes wonder, last year 496,370 people died in England alone, that's more than the entire population of Morecambe, Lancaster, Preston and Blackpool put together, all gone in just one year.

Most of those who died from, or more accurately, with Covid, were over 80 and not in the best of health, if Covid hadn't got them, if indeed it did, something else would have taken the vast majority of them very soon anyway. Just being alive at all is a deadly business, fatality rate of 100% I believe, or perhaps you've discovered the secret of eternal life ?

Well, I'm just glad that you opted for a job putting fires out instead of a medical career.

And, yes. I reckon that I have finally cracked the Elixir of Life. Give us £50 and I'll pop some in the post

[sinkov]

Well I was really worried last week because they changed my blood pressure medication that had been controlling everything for 17 years.
Within days my blood pressure had gone up to 200/110 on a daily basis. I was due an appointment with the nurse after one week to see how things were and she was apoplectic at the reading and got the doctor to ring me at home within the hour. Guess what, he put me back on the original medication and within two days my blood pressure was 135/78 and has remained so.

My question is, had I had a stroke and eded up in hospital, been tested for Covid, found positive and then died ---would I have been a victim of Covid or a victim of the pharmacist who insisted that a change of medication would be ideal?
Just asking --because I am 74 in a couple of weeks time!

You've got me worried now Sub, I have a minor problem which my GP is unable to get to the bottom of, he's so lost as to what to try next that he's got to the old standby of seeing if it might be caused by the side effects from my daily dose of tablets. So last week he took me off my blood pressure medication, to see if that was causing it. My readings vary but are usually similar to yours, 130/80, I haven't checked since I came off the tabbies over a week ago, I'll check it first thing in the morning, hopefully it won't have shot up like yours did.

[Supersub6]

I'm just glad that your're fighting fit again mate.

59_60 --I never felt any different, however, when you keep a check on your blood pressure on a daily basis, which I do, to see it suddenly rocket up, as it did, is enough to give you blood pressure problems.

However, nobody has answered my question about whether or not I would have become a Covid statistic if something drastic had happened. Meanwhile, I shall remain in my usual delirious state of mind and I still believe that ---if you are going to get it ---you will and --- if not ---you won't. It really is quite simple although I think that the fear factor has won with many people who flinch if you say good morning to them! It's a daft old world, particularly if you let them get to you!

[sinkov]

Well, I'm just glad that you opted for a job putting fires out instead of a medical career.

Saving lives was my job 59, I had to live in the real world, not some starry-eyed fantasy that we all live for ever, and no one should ever die. You do know none of us gets out of this alive don't you ? I'm beginning to wonder.

[Supersub6]

Saving lives was my job 59, I had to live in the real world, not some starry-eyed fantasy that we all live for ever, and no one should ever die. You do know none of us gets out of this alive don't you ? I'm beginning to wonder.

Aye, keep a check on that BP sinkov My friend, Mike, who I sit with at the Turf, is a medical specialist and still working, in spite of being about 76 years old. He is a wonderful bloke and he was saying that they probably wanted to change my medication because one of the tablets could cause diabetes. However, as he said, that is the case with a lot of medication, however, at our age why should we worry about the complications which could be caused bt diabetes ---we are dying anyway! I love it!

[1959_60]

Saving lives was my job 59, I had to live in the real world, not some starry-eyed fantasy that we all live for ever, and no one should ever die. You do know none of us gets out of this alive don't you ? I'm beginning to wonder.

You should have a word with Matt Hancock.

Imagine the brass we would save if we binned the NHS.

Same argument for abolishing the fire service too.

Why waste time and money saving people who are going to die anyway?

But if you don't mind, we won't put that in our coalition manifesto

[sinkov]

You should have a word with Matt Hancock.

Imagine the brass we would save if we binned the NHS.

Same argument for abolishing the fire service too.

Why waste time and money saving people who are going to die anyway?

But if you don't mind, we won't put that in our coalition manifesto

You've lost me mon ami, why are you talking about binning the NHS and abolishing the Fire Service ?