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Thread: The Corona Virus

  1. #1971
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    The crisis is over, long gone, but the lunacy endures.

    "Pub drinkers in some parts of England will be forced to wear masks even when outside from Monday, thanks to even stricter rules for reopening drawn up by some overzealous councils.

    Landlords have been told they must enforce mask-wearing by their customers when they are walking around beer gardens, despite national guidance that only requires face coverings indoors.

    Councils have set up enforcement teams that will patrol pubs looking for rule-breakers, and landlords fear they could face fines if their customers are caught.

    The Government’s guidance says drinkers must wear masks if going inside a pub to use the toilets or to pay at the bar.

    One notice from Ribble Valley Borough Council told pubs in Lancashire that “face coverings must be worn by customers, except when seated to eat or drink”.

    Stosie Madi, owner of the Parkers Arms pub near Clitheroe, contacted the council to ask if the notice was a “misprint” and whether her customers needed masks outdoors.

    A council official told her face coverings must be worn in her beer garden unless her customers are eating and drinking.

    Ms Madi told The Telegraph: “You can go anywhere in this country outdoors and do whatever you're doing without a mask, so why on earth would you need to wear a mask outside in a pub?

    “The council said they had set up a task force that will go around enforcing this. For me the worry is, what happens when a task force comes into my garden and sees a customer walking from his table and going to his car without a mask?

    “What do they do? Are they going to turn around and penalise me in some way?”

    Ribble Valley Borough Council did not respond to a request for comment."

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    Can a cup of yogurt cure your case of COVID-19? (Orit Malka and Prof. Raz Jelinek, vice president and dean for research and development at BGU.)

    https://www.jpost.com/health-science...ovid-19-664976

    Pre-clinical research by Israeli scientists, published in Microbiome, indicates that Kefir could be used to treat cytokine storms caused by coronavirus.
    Kefir, which is similar to yogurt but thinner in consistency, is a fermented drink made by inoculating cow’s or goat’s milk with microorganism mixtures, such as yeast and bacteria. A cytokine storm is when the body’s immune system goes into overdrive and attacks itself – one of the leading causes of death in COVID-19 patients.
    Several years before the coronavirus pandemic, Malka noticed that yogurt had a therapeutic effect and began studying it in Jelinek’s lab. They identified molecules in the yogurt that had dramatic antibacterial and anti-inflammatory properties.

    “One of the main reasons people die of COVID is the cytokine storm,” Jelinek said. “Cytokines are immune molecules that are designed to help the body fight invaders like viruses. But in certain circumstances, and scientists don’t know exactly why, the body goes into a sort of overdrive and secretes many cytokines – so many that it kills you. That is what happens during COVID.”

    “We knew that we had found these molecules in yogurt with anti-inflammatory properties,” he said. “So, when COVID started, we said, Let’s see if these molecules can help against cytokine storms.” Jelinek and Malka induced cytokine storms in mice. Then they watched what happened.
    The mice that had the storm and were not treated died. But the mice that were treated with the molecules they found in the yogurt had a complete recovery. The molecules not only eliminated the cytokine storm, they also restored balance to the immune system.
    “This was really remarkable,”

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    Our Prime Minister is now saying that vaccines have nothing to do with driving down Covid deaths, it's all due to lockdowns. He wants locking up, he's quite simply insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    The crisis is over, long gone, but the lunacy endures.

    "Pub drinkers in some parts of England will be forced to wear masks even when outside from Monday, thanks to even stricter rules for reopening drawn up by some overzealous councils.

    Landlords have been told they must enforce mask-wearing by their customers when they are walking around beer gardens, despite national guidance that only requires face coverings indoors.

    Councils have set up enforcement teams that will patrol pubs looking for rule-breakers, and landlords fear they could face fines if their customers are caught.

    The Government’s guidance says drinkers must wear masks if going inside a pub to use the toilets or to pay at the bar.

    One notice from Ribble Valley Borough Council told pubs in Lancashire that “face coverings must be worn by customers, except when seated to eat or drink”.

    Stosie Madi, owner of the Parkers Arms pub near Clitheroe, contacted the council to ask if the notice was a “misprint” and whether her customers needed masks outdoors.

    A council official told her face coverings must be worn in her beer garden unless her customers are eating and drinking.

    Ms Madi told The Telegraph: “You can go anywhere in this country outdoors and do whatever you're doing without a mask, so why on earth would you need to wear a mask outside in a pub?

    “The council said they had set up a task force that will go around enforcing this. For me the worry is, what happens when a task force comes into my garden and sees a customer walking from his table and going to his car without a mask?

    “What do they do? Are they going to turn around and penalise me in some way?”

    Ribble Valley Borough Council did not respond to a request for comment."
    Madness!

  5. #1975
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Our Prime Minister is now saying that vaccines have nothing to do with driving down Covid deaths, it's all due to lockdowns. He wants locking up, he's quite simply insane.
    More f*cking madness. The lunatics have now got the keys to the asylum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    More f*cking madness. The lunatics have now got the keys to the asylum.
    I think they had the keys for a while - BT....seems all they had to do was swap their straitjackets for a suits.




    Professor Carl Heneghan - professor of evidence-based medicine at Oxford University,

    The hidden death toll of lockdown

    It’s hard to imagine, let alone measure, the side effects of lockdowns. The risk with the government’s ‘fear’ messaging is that people become so worried about burdening the NHS that they avoid seeking medical help. Or by the time they do so, it can be too late. The big rise in at-home deaths (still ongoing) points to that. You will be familiar with the Covid death toll, updated in the papers every day. But did you know that since the pandemic, we’ve had 28,200 more deaths among diabetics than we’d normally expect? That’s not the kind of figure they show on a graph at No. 10 press conferences. For people with heart disease, it’s 17,100. For dementia and Alzheimer’s, it’s 22,800. Most were categorised as Covid deaths: people can die with multiple conditions, so they can fall into more than one of these categories. It’s a complicated picture. But that’s the problem in assessing lockdown: you need to do a balance of risks.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ll-of-lockdown


    Professor Anna-Mia Ekström and Professor Stefan Swartling Peterson have gone through the data from UNICEF and UNAIDS, and came to the conclusion that at least as many people have died as a result of the restrictions to fight COVID as have died of COVID.

    Two Leading Swedish Health Experts Explain That COVID Lockdowns Have Killed Millions of People

    Sebastian Rushworth, a medical doctor in Sweden. Reading his recent blog post, I came across the fact that, as you can see above, two of Hans Rosling’s former colleagues at Karolinska Instituet, professor Anna-Mia Elkström and professor Stefan Swartling Peterson, have gone through the data from UNICEF and UNAIDS, and come to the conclusion that least as many people have died as a result of the restrictions to fight COVID as have died of COVID directly. I verified this using multiple sources, and it’s true, these professors did in fact come to this conclusion, and there are many sources expressing this. They have been interviewed about their findings on SVT, the Swedish public broadcaster.

    https://www.collective-evolution.com...ons-of-people/

    ..

    past time we reclaimed...Sanity !



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    Ahhhhhhhh! The link? Is someone ( the Governments ?) telling us porkies?? Is this a link?

    What was the link between a pandemic and control?? or the ' GREAT RESET '?

    Pentagon scientists have invented a microchip that once inserted under the skin will detect if the patient develops Covid-19.

    And they have also developed a revolutionary filter that can remove the virus from the patient’s blood through a dialysis machine.

    Researchers at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)...... say they have been working for years ??.......on ways to prevent and to end pandemics.

    Their work on the microchip was revealed on 60 Minutes on CBS on Sunday night.

    Retired Colonel Matt Hepburn, an army infectious disease physician leading DARPA’s response to the pandemic, showed off the technology on the show.

    .......''Invention inspired by huge virus outbreak on board USS Theodore Roosevelt???'' .......''say they have been working for years ??

    So when was that outbreak ? 2009? 2010? Nooooo......''The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the cause of the COVID-19 pandemic, was detected on the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt in March 2020 while she was at sea.

    ''I guess it's more Fake news''

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    "A new report suggests Covid-19 levels were falling before all three lockdowns. Details below."

    Well, well, well, just what I've been saying on numerous occasions on here over the last six months, much to the dismay of posters like OC, 59 and Army, I even put up the governments own figures which proved it, but they didn't want to know. Never mind, the truth will out eventually.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...82a97384334d92

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    "A new report suggests Covid-19 levels were falling before all three lockdowns. Details below."

    Well, well, well, just what I've been saying on numerous occasions on here over the last six months, much to the dismay of posters like OC, 59 and Army, I even put up the governments own figures which proved it, but they didn't want to know. Never mind, the truth will out eventually.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...82a97384334d92
    am sorry to say it.....but for many, it seems your a squeek surrounded by booms, and folk like noise, in fact, the more noisy the better it seems...forget whats behind it.
    Which reminds me of a Waltons episode - Jim-Bob was building a car and had got himself a brass squeeze horn from the local scrap yard, he still owed money on it, but when it came time to pay-up....unfortunately, he'd had to spend the money on something more important for the motor so...had to return the it.
    As he was walking through Rockfish, the nearest town....on his way to the yard, he began squeezing the horn, honk-honk... and lo and behold, before he knew it, he had an trail of folk following behind, pied piper like....all the way to the scrappy they went, the owner was so pleased that Jim-bob had brought him the extra buisiness, that he gave him the horn.




    and as I and many many others have said on many many occasions, the PCR test replicates DNA sequences, is not to be used as a diagnostic tool to detect viruses.....but what do we know, even its Inventor said it so, but hey...what does that matter ?

    German court ruling.

    Verdict in Weimar: No more masks, no tests and no more distance for students

    The judge justified his decision with, among other things, according to the court, "the lack of use of wearing a mask and the observance of distance regulations for the children themselves and third parties". In addition, the judge cites the "unsuitability of PCR tests and rapid tests for measuring the incidence of infection" as one of the reasons for his judgment.

    https://translate.google.com/transla...search&pto=aue

    Full translation of the ruling.

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/04...ng-at-schools/

    The masks are not only useless, they are also dangerous, the court ruled:

    The risk of infection is not only not reduced by wearing the mask, but is increased by incorrect handling of the mask. In her report, the expert explains this in detail as well as the fact that… it is “unrealistic” to achieve the appropriate use of masks by the population.


    In her report, Kappstein points out that only genetic material can be detected with the PCR test used, but not whether the RNA comes from viruses that are capable of infection and therefore capable of replication (= capable of reproduction)…

    In her molecular biology expert report, Kämmerer confirms that a PCR test – even if carried out correctly – cannot make any statement as to whether a person is infected with an active pathogen or not.




    experts, court rulings....it must be a Conspiracy !



    Last edited by Norder; 14-04-2021 at 11:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Our Prime Minister is now saying that vaccines have nothing to do with driving down Covid deaths, it's all due to lockdowns. He wants locking up, he's quite simply insane.
    It's amusing reading the journos trying to work out why Boris said that, when it's so patently untrue, many and varied are the reasons given, but no one has stated the bleedin obvious one. He's a buffoon, an idiot, he just says the first thing that comes into his head, he doesn't really know what he's doing or saying, as BT correctly keeps pointing out. God help us, this buffoon runs the country.

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