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Thread: The Corona Virus

  1. #2361
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    With all this posting balan, is it a quiet time on the kibbutz, or is someone else doing all the work ?
    One word sinkov... עצלן

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    Yes and no ! Today is the beginning of the weekend and 'Shabat'. In a few hours it will be relatively quiet. People will stop work and be off home, to welcome the 'Shabat'.In the kibbutz with 30 C outside, people will tend to rest, simply sleep, ( I do not belong to that philosophy of life, so life will pass by ,and now it seems even quicker! (Except when I must visit the dentist) ,so outside it is almost 'dead silent'. In this Kibbutz we are not religious ,some thinking to be far away from religion, yet others may feel materialism ? That which ever way you look at it cannot move the soul to sweetness'.

    So for BT here is a prayer for Saturday night ,pity he may be at the pub?

    Blessed are You, Eternal our God, Sovereign of the universe. You hallow us with Your commandments and command us to kindle the lights of Shabbat.

    ''Baruch Atah Adonai, Eloheinu Melech haolam, asher kid'shanu b'mitzvotav v'zivanu l'hadlik ner shel Shabbat''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Back to the subject:

    https://www.ynetnews.com/health_scie...icle/s19okqv0u

    Israel says Pfizer vaccine efficacy in preventing infection drops to 39%.
    The Health Ministry reported Thursday the efficacy of Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine in preventing infection has dropped to 39% but the effectiveness in preventing severe illness still remains relatively high. These figures were published three weeks after Ynet first revealed the decline in the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against the Delta variant.
    The strain appears to be responsible for the surge in COVID cases around the country despite Israel's rapid inoculation campaign that saw over 5.7 million Israelis receive the first jab, and over 5.2 million receive the booster shot. Among those who received both doses of the vaccine and were considered fully immune to the pathogen, 5,770 have been recently diagnosed with COVID after 1,152,914 tests had been conducted.
    Don't tell our government Balan, they think vaccine passports for nightclubs will ensure the virus will not spread. If 60% of those vaxxed can still be infected and pass it on, then vaccine passes to gain admission to a nightclub are a complete and utter waste of time and money. Not that that fact is likely to make any difference to the halfwits running this country.

  4. #2364
    Crisis, what crisis..?

    "There were 64 deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid test and 36,389 cases recorded in the past 24 hours. Yesterday 43,000 people had their first dose of the vaccine and 174,742 their second. The total number of vaccinations given now stands at 83,239,491 and 46,476,845 people have had at least one dose, with 36,762,646 now fully vaccinated."

    In all probability they died of something other than Covid, because they have not been able to see a doctor for the last 18 months.

  5. #2365
    "More than 800,000 people in the UK were infected with coronavirus last week, the ONS estimated".

    Who the f*ck runs the ONS and where do they get their absurd estimates from?

    Do they know where the bodies are buried?

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    So how are all these people getting infected when they have had jabs and it's too early early to assess the impact of "freedom day" yet so masks and distance rules still apply as yet. Where they is the herd immunity; even the Spanish flu finally disappeared due to a weakening of the virus to to immunity resistance... ,but oh know not this virus!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlydave View Post
    So how are all these people getting infected when they have had jabs and it's too early early to assess the impact of "freedom day" yet so masks and distance rules still apply as yet. Where they is the herd immunity; even the Spanish flu finally disappeared due to a weakening of the virus to to immunity resistance... ,but oh know not this virus!!!
    getting pinged off with it- Deadly ?... As the useless tests are exploited to keep up the illusion, it the same with the jabs, and being the tests are screwy, how could an experimental "vac-sin" ever be a success ?....so can forget herd immunity - this is ongoing because the PTB want it to be - If you play their game that is, which sadly - the majority have.


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    going to the flix - French style !






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    From todays Jerusalem post

    https://www.jpost.com/%20israel-pfiz...iveness-674766

    Is Israel or the UK right when it comes to COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness?
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    The British study, in contrast, found that two doses of the Pfizer vaccine were 88% effective against stopping symptomatic infection against the Delta variant. The study was authored by researchers from Public Health England, the National Institute of Health Research, Guy’s and St. Thomas’ Hospital NHS Trust and the University of Oxford.
    The Delta variant is currently responsible for more than 90% of cases in the country and has been found to be significantly more contagious.
    First and critical is the difference in time between exposure to the Delta variant and vaccination.
    England vaccinated at a much slower pace than Israel, meaning that the majority of its population was only fully vaccinated by mid-April 2021. This is in contrast to Israel, where around 90% of the country’s most vulnerable population were jabbed by the end of January.
    It is beginning to become clear that vaccine immunity begins to wane after about six months. The Israeli study showed that for people vaccinated more than six months ago, the effectiveness of the vaccine at stopping coronavirus dropped to as low as 16%.
    Among more than 1.8 million people who received two shots by January 31, some 5,770 contracted the virus – and 1,181 of them, or 20% of all new infections, were contracted during the week of July 11 to 17, the Health Ministry reported.
    “If you take into account that they [the UK population] vaccinated later and were exposed to the Delta variant a month before us,” Cohen said, “it could make sense that at the point they checked, they had around 80% effectiveness. The question is what is going to happen in three months? Will they see the same efficacy that we are seeing?”

    Both Israel and the UK were careful to first vaccinate healthcare workers and the elderly. In England, however, the older population was largely administered the AstraZeneca vaccine, whereas people under 40 were offered Pfizer or Moderna as an alternative, due to evidence linking AstraZeneca to rare blood clots. The same study showed that the AstraZeneca vaccine was only 67% effective against symptomatic disease after two doses.
    In Israel, everyone received Pfizer. Breakthrough infections were most prominent among people aged 60 and older, a cohort that already has a greater tendency to be immunocompromised and prone to developing symptomatic if not severe cases of COVID-19.

    A third explanation relates to the level of PCR testing carried out in the two countries. Israel uses a more sensitive or stringent PCR testing regime than the UK.
    Genetic matter from the virus is amplified in cycles by PCR tests. The more cycles that are run, the more likely the lab is to detect the virus. Israel uses 37 amplifying cycles, which means that you are positive for the coronavirus even if the test process required up to 37 cycles to detect the virus.
    “If the PCR testing is less sensitive, England may miss some cases – or Israel may catch more cases – and that could play a role in the numbers,” Cohen said.

    An Oxford University study over the weekend found that an eight-week gap between the first and second doses of the Pfizer vaccine is a “sweet spot” when it comes to generating neutralizing antibodies.
    When England launched its vaccination campaign, it did not have enough doses to vaccinate the population according to Pfizer’s recommended regime of two doses three weeks apart. As such, it spread doses out to between four and 12 weeks to allow more people to get at least one jab.
    Specifically, the new research showed that neutralizing antibody levels, the level of those antibodies responsible for defending cells from pathogens, were higher after the extended dosing interval (six to 14 weeks) compared to the conventional three-to-four-week regime.

    Specifically, the new research showed that neutralizing antibody levels, the level of those antibodies responsible for defending cells from pathogens, were higher after the extended dosing interval (six to 14 weeks) compared to the conventional three-to-four-week regime.
    In contrast, the T cell response was of a marginally lower magnitude after the longer dosing interval. T cells provide longer-term immunity and scientists believe that they could provide some immunity to COVID-19, even when antibodies become less effective at fighting the disease.
    “The question is: Would you wait eight weeks when there is a pandemic?” Noting that separate studies have shown that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is only around 30% effective against the Delta variant, which would leave the population vulnerable for two months. “It’s a tough question.”
    Cohen’s solution is to provide a third shot to the most vulnerable people, which new research is starting to show does a good job in boosting antibody levels.
    “We are still learning the best way to immunize people with these vaccines,” he said. “But we are still in the middle of the pandemic.”

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    there's hope yet.....

    Vaccinated people burn their pass. Without them and without the unvaccinated, businesses are already suffering -70% for cinemas since July 21, sports clubs are suffering, restaurants and other sectors will come. Macron will not win

    https://twitter.com/SierraTango74/st...13847334395904



    is the same in many other countries, people realising that allowing a dictatorial state that requires their complete subservience to - censorship, surveillance, cultish personality controls and all other manner of restricted freedoms - is Not a good idea.



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