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    O/T:- China

    What is peoples thoughts towards them now after this?


    Mines sod em. Make all the big companies decide where they want to be. Boycott them if they stay. Bring production back to Europe or the US. Why should the rest of us suffer & we will because of this. Get the economies booming over here rather than there once its cleared up. China will be booming after this if not whilst we pick up the pieces
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    ... send China the bill for exporting CV19. This is where we could do with a strong UN which would direct the financial institutions to stop the money flow into China. This, of course, won't happen ... but would if, apart from my role as UK Benevolent Dictator, I was also made World Benevolent Dictator. My benevolence to the world would know no bounds. (... all in good fun, FFS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    ... send China the bill for exporting CV19. This is where we could do with a strong UN which would direct the financial institutions to stop the money flow into China. This, of course, won't happen ... but would if, apart from my role as UK Benevolent Dictator, I was also made World Benevolent Dictator. My benevolence to the world would know no bounds. (... all in good fun, FFS).
    If you stopped the money flow into China you'd probably kneecap the USA at a stroke as there'd be nobody to buy US treasury bonds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    If you stopped the money flow into China you'd probably kneecap the USA at a stroke as there'd be nobody to buy US treasury bonds.
    Yay! Win/win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpete View Post
    What is peoples thoughts towards them now after this?
    I've got no problem with China as a people or nation and I don't buy the conspiracy theories around the start of Coronavirus.

    Unfortunately, the first reaction of a Government like China's is to hide or deny a problem, as they did when the "whistleblower" doctor raised the alarm. It's an instinctive reaction of what is still a fairly secretive state which guards its reputation closely, but in this case if they had confronted and been open about the problem earlier, rather than going into temporary denial, it might have been better contained, though that's by no means certain.

    On the flipside, once they did admit they had a problem, China was able to act with the kind of authority Western Governments can only dream of, not just in terms of building infrastructure urgently, but also (I assume, because I didn't see it) controlling the messaging through the media far more tightly than is possible in western countries, and being sure that their people would follow the instructions they were given. I'm not saying that's a good thing under normal circumstances, because it isn't, but in an emergency situation it doesn't necessarily help to have too many voices issuing or contradicting advice or fermenting panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    I've got no problem with China as a people or nation and I don't buy the conspiracy theories around the start of Coronavirus.

    Unfortunately, the first reaction of a Government like China's is to hide or deny a problem, as they did when the "whistleblower" doctor raised the alarm. It's an instinctive reaction of what is still a fairly secretive state which guards its reputation closely, but in this case if they had confronted and been open about the problem earlier, rather than going into temporary denial, it might have been better contained, though that's by no means certain.

    On the flipside, once they did admit they had a problem, China was able to act with the kind of authority Western Governments can only dream of, not just in terms of building infrastructure urgently, but also (I assume, because I didn't see it) controlling the messaging through the media far more tightly than is possible in western countries, and being sure that their people would follow the instructions they were given. I'm not saying that's a good thing under normal circumstances, because it isn't, but in an emergency situation it doesn't necessarily help to have too many voices issuing or contradicting advice or fermenting panic.
    This! By the very nature of the beast, they we're deceptively quiet at the beginning, but by god, they certainly went full steam when it went public. Measures that have totally decimated the outbreak and stopped the virus in its tracks. Building hospitals in a week? Probably first to a vaccine? Central government saying as it is without having to mention the sodding economy in every other sentence?

    As said above, a response that Western governments and their citizens can only dream of!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpete View Post
    What is peoples thoughts towards them now after this?


    Mines sod em. Make all the big companies decide where they want to be. Boycott them if they stay. Bring production back to Europe or the US. Why should the rest of us suffer & we will because of this. Get the economies booming over here rather than there once its cleared up. China will be booming after this if not whilst we pick up the pieces
    I'll get banned if I post my response!

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    Bird flu, SARS and now this one. All starting in China, makes you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReadWarbler View Post
    Bird flu, SARS and now this one. All starting in China, makes you think.
    Uncontrolled wild meat markets have always existed in rural China, but became literal life-savers during Mao's great communist experiment where 20 to 40 million people starved to death....dogs, cats, snakes and rats became common food items, even humans (though the latter was rarely documented)

    The Chinese ruling elite has at various times tried to ban these markets (difficult when most are controlled by criminal gangs), heavily regulate them and actively support them as a part of a growing and vibrant economy.
    The problem is that most of these animals never meet in the wild, and new and exotic viruses are growing, spreading, cross-breeding and jumping between animals and now crossing into humans....it's a disaster waiting to happen and will probably continue to happen every few years or so....they will find a cure for covid19 hopefully this year, but a new virus is waiting.....as I've said elsewhere, this is nature's way of hitting back at arrogant humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpete View Post
    What is peoples thoughts towards them now after this?


    Mines sod em. Make all the big companies decide where they want to be. Boycott them if they stay. Bring production back to Europe or the US. Why should the rest of us suffer & we will because of this. Get the economies booming over here rather than there once its cleared up. China will be booming after this if not whilst we pick up the pieces

    So its all China’s fault - perhaps we should declare war on them !

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