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Thread: O/T:- Should he stay or should he go? WARNING - POLITICAL THREAD!!!!

  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    Still think there's a chance we might have got the investment had that Fword fan kept his nose out. Ours (& svens) reputation was damaged beyond repair largely thanks to him. That's not to defend Russell King or to suggest that we wouldn't have been in a mess, but I don't think that journalist helped us one bit, nor gave a **** what happened to us afterwards. We ended up with The Trews for god's sake.

    Feel for Newcastle fans at the moment, regardless of the rights or wrongs.
    I don’t think there was ever any money available. King was a fraudster, and Notts County were one of his victims. All the money that was spent by Trembling was debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfists View Post
    I'm on the left and I think left or right, they should resign or be sacked if they broke the rules to socialise or test their eyesight or other non essential journeys. I'm sick of the elite or ruling classes on all sides just pleasing themselves, I know they have and will anyway but at the moment, shut your mouths and stay in your house. Or piss off.
    I'm on the right and I agree.
    Although he hasn't manipulated a story about WMD and sent soldiers to their deaths.
    JUst goes to show, none of them can be trusted
    Lying, self serving shysters the lot of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJPIE View Post
    I'm on the right and I agree.
    Although he hasn't manipulated a story about WMD and sent soldiers to their deaths.
    JUst goes to show, none of them can be trusted
    Lying, self serving shysters the lot of them
    Though I am sure you could come up with other examples, you have just condemned hundreds of MPs on the basis of a couple of them behaving badly. Somewhat like calling all Notts fans “hooligans” because there have been examples of Notts fans getting into fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by applepie View Post
    Though I am sure you could come up with other examples, you have just condemned hundreds of MPs on the basis of a couple of them behaving badly. Somewhat like calling all Notts fans “hooligans” because there have been examples of Notts fans getting into fights.
    The actions of Dominic Cummings in driving his wife and child to be near his parents because they had no other childcare options stretches credibility a bit, but it might just be true. What definitely isn't true is that he visited Barnard Castle with his wife (on her birthday) and child in the car purely to check whether his eyesight was up to driving. That is possibly the most pathetic lie I've ever heard. What makes it worse is that this blatant lie was backed up by not only the Prime Minister but by the vast majority of his cabinet as well! It seems that Johnson has decided to take the hit to his popularity simply to keep his puppet master in place. It might be a sound political decision because an election is a long way off, but I just hope that voters remember how shabbily they have been treated by this incompetent buffooon.

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    Here's a thought,

    This crisis forces the tories to do things they hate, state controlled economic coordination, collective action on the part of the population - the very opposite of the individualistic, private sector dominated society they're constantly pushing. Tories are reported to be very surprised and disappointed that the lockdown was so well-observed.

    Cummings acted individualistically. It's accepted that he's undermined any collective action required as this pandemic runs its deadly course. Now people won't feel like following instructions, behaviour is more likely to revert to how the tories imagine people should behave - stuff everyone else, I'm doing what I want.

    More people will die, but we know it won't be the rich and powerful (better health and diet, better health care, spacious country pads), the deaths will be among our ranks.

    Maybe a lot of tories are thinking good job, Dominic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Here's a thought,

    This crisis forces the tories to do things they hate, state controlled economic coordination, collective action on the part of the population - the very opposite of the individualistic, private sector dominated society they're constantly pushing. Tories are reported to be very surprised and disappointed that the lockdown was so well-observed.

    Cummings acted individualistically. It's accepted that he's undermined any collective action required as this pandemic runs its deadly course. Now people won't feel like following instructions, behaviour is more likely to revert to how the tories imagine people should behave - stuff everyone else, I'm doing what I want.

    More people will die, but we know it won't be the rich and powerful (better health and diet, better health care, spacious country pads), the deaths will be among our ranks.

    Maybe a lot of tories are thinking good job, Dominic.
    To be honest I don't think Cummings is your classic Conservative. He just fought an election based on a level of public sector investment that any other Conservative government would've attacked as loony left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJPIE View Post
    I'm on the right and I agree.
    Although he hasn't manipulated a story about WMD and sent soldiers to their deaths.
    JUst goes to show, none of them can be trusted
    Lying, self serving shysters the lot of them
    Seems a bit harsh to condemn one set of politicians on the basis on what their predecessors did 17 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    It was a bloke called Matt Scott, but I think he’s an Arsenal fan. I hated him at the time, and clearly it was a bit of a scoop and he didn’t give a monkeys about us one way or the other. To be fair, it should have been a local journalist who picked it up, but they’re clearly useless.
    Yes, yes, yes and yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Not sure what would have happened if the whole fiasco had carried on unmolested. It was only when Ray Trew took over that we got a decent manager in and won the league, so nothing would have been guaranteed.
    This is why I'll always have a qualified opinion about Ray Trew's tenure. I don't think anyone would dispute that he completely lost the plot, that his relationship with the club and the supporters became untenable and that his departure from the club was for the best, but I don't believe he arrived with bad intentions. For quite a while he seemed to be having a positive influence.

    Similar to Alan Hardy though, I think he wanted undying adulation from the fans and that never happens. I can remember him saying early on in the decline that the "worm had turned", referring to what was at that time quite mild criticism from a certain group of supporters, but the relationship thereafter was never really the same.

    The current owners seem very different people to either Ray Trew or Alan Hardy. The Reedtz brothers don't go on social media seeking glowing praise, and in turn they don't attract fierce criticism. They just work away quietly in the background and don't seem the least bit prone to mood swings or impulsive decision-making. Football is a game of ups and downs by nature, so you need club owners to be the calm, moderating counter-balance to that emotional rollercoaster. As a club and as supporters I think we've learned that lesson the hard way.
    Last edited by jackal2; 27-05-2020 at 08:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    This is why I'll always have a qualified opinion about Ray Trew's tenure. I don't think anyone would dispute that he completely lost the plot, that his relationship with the club and the supporters became untenable and that his departure from the club was for the best, but I don't believe he arrived with bad intentions. For quite a while he seemed to be having a positive influence.

    Similar to Alan Hardy though, I think he wanted undying adulation from the fans and that never happens. I can remember him saying early on in the decline that the "worm had turned", referring to what was at that time quite mild criticism from a certain group of supporters, but the relationship thereafter was never really the same.

    The current owners seem very different people to either Ray Trew or Alan Hardy. The Reedtz brothers don't go on social media seeking glowing praise, and in turn they don't attract fierce criticism. They just work away quietly in the background and don't seem the least bit prone to mood swings or impulsive decision-making. Football is a game of ups and downs by nature, so you need club owners to be the calm, moderating counter-balance to that emotional rollercoaster.
    Very well put jackal, agree with every word.

    It's seems a bit weird that when the country is in utter turmoil, Notts County is a relative sea of calm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    It's seems a bit weird that when the country is in utter turmoil, Notts County is a relative sea of calm!
    I hope it's not just because we've stopped playing!

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