Dominic Cummings

[Orgoner]

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Very good.

[Tichi1]

Never heard the term "Mental health issues" until recently, now seems everybody is suffering from one form or another.... especially millenials!

Never mind they will all be resolved when sir Kier and his left wing trots take over.

[spaldy]

A famous politician said it best.

"The scariest 9 words in the English language: I'm from the government and I am here to help".

[MrsORichSenior]

in Boris we trust an pay our taxes, what are the French doing escorting non born Christians to our country, we also can't understand the French letting this happen... is Paris still getting riots by the non born French, i've heard Normandy they are going to build 4 new camps about time keep them there we don't need or want them here,

............ 'non born christians' & 'non born French'......' WTF ?

Yellow vest movement ?

I’ve watched the incremental retreat of the state from rural France, maternity clinics, district courts, army barracks, post offices and shops disappearing from the centres of small towns. The people affected by this retreat realised (thanks to the internet) that they were on the fringe. What the yellow vests gave them was visibility in the media and rapprochement with each other to voice concern.

People who had stopped talking to each other as the town centres were hollowed out in favour of strip malls found each other again at the town/village roundabouts where they gathered to protest. They shared their struggles and cast off the shame of feeling as if they had “failed” to stay in the middle classes by becoming unified.

The people that wear them are French citizens being off duty Police officers,off duty firefighters,off duty medic staff,teachers,trade union members,even pensioners who see nothing but higher taxes and erosion of the welfare safety net - they don't sit on their arses and let politicians off easily in France,they voice free opinion via the streets.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_movement


NHS staffing 2020 stats ...........

4 out of 5 (79.2%) were White (including White ethnic minorities), and 1 in 5 (20.7%) were from all other ethnic groups
there was a higher percentage of staff in medical roles (working as doctors in hospitals and community health services) from the Asian, Chinese, Mixed and Other ethnic groups than in non-medical roles
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures....rkforce/latest
So who will take their place if PM Boris sends them out of UK ?


Migrant workers ............ 2020 stats .........
98% of fruit pickers & veg pickers (now classed as “key workers”)came from outside the UK, the vast majority from Bulgaria and Romania. British growers have been contacting companies as they require 90,000 such workers and have already chartered planes that PM Boris authorised to fly 'em in as nobody wants such hourly work in UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...eastern-europe

[spaldy]

Your post is confusing.

Government never equates to freedom? stealing part of a paycheck and the ability to self determine and giving to someone else is the antithesis of freedom. regardless of the country. The only difference is that countries such as France and Belguim do it a little more gracefully than China, Russia or Venezuela.

in the end it always ends up the same. Some just take longer than others. Ben Franklin summed it up best. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Counting on the govenment to give you anything more than defense or infrastructure in a fools errand. Counting on them to control their power and treat themselves the same as others is insanity. They will always **** you over the long haul. Power crazed people always seem to end up ruling those that just want to get on with their life.

[MrsORichSenior]

Hiya Spaldy
Mmm,politics & Ben Franklin
For what it's worth I did a degree on Political History & Science of it - problem is age,experience changes ones veiws.

There are no definitive answers for sure anywhere but the system in Switzerland is interesting and business opportunities are not demanding when dealing within that country.

Any Swiss citizen may request an optional referendum to contest a new or revised law. To do so they must gather 50,000 signatures within 100 days. If the referendum goes ahead, the new law is passed or rejected by a simple majority.

Since 1891 citizens may also demand a change to the constitution via referendum by launching a popular initiative. It must be launched by a group of at least seven citizens, and must then be backed by 100,000 signatures within 18 months to push it to a referendum. A double majority of the people and the cantons is required for it to pass.

My Mum thinks Interpol are onto me nowadays since my Moscow trip so I promised her no political lecturing on media

MOT

[spaldy]

Mrs ORS,

I loved poly science and history. Just could not see a way to make a living from it without actually going into government or acedamia many moons ago when getting a degree. Very afraid I'd end up like the politicians or propagandists.

The Swiss are truly unique. The "perfect storm" of geography, a very closed and insular society, a principled population willing to die for their beliefs (whether right or wrong) and very educated. Obviously finance drives everything but they have managed to maintain these principals and beliefs even though they are floating in cash from around the world. They have avoided the taint of quick riches. Obviously, the world needs a safe haven to hide their money (often pilfered from the people they allegedly "serve) but they've played the long game rather than get rich quick.

Love their beliefs on gun ownership and usage. Everyone is expected to stand their ground if some country is foolish enough to attack them. Not an option but expected. In these days of electronic censorship, control and even warfare not sure it's still as relevant as it was back in the old days. However, I'm sure the Swiss have enormous investment in countermeasures to hackers and cyber crime.

Haven't followed what they've done on the virus. Might be an interesting study.

[Jezleeds]

Blimey we're quoting Ben Franklin the slave owner who said all people are created equal, and Switzerland, the place where they serve ***ist Arab men who push in in front of (non-Arab) women already being served', to quote my own experience several times with my wife in Geneva, and where FIFA was allowed grace and favour for decades to corruptly go about it's dubious business.

More to the point made previously about the wonders of Swiss democracy, because of the system of referenda being used for direct decision making, those with vested interest monopolise the choice of referendum. Hence why men in Switzerland didn't vote for a referendum to allow women to vote in elections until 1971.

Hardly a great example of how things should be.

In this country we get the government we deserve, and the one the majority chooses - with all its faults (and there's an argument for a version of proportional representation to allow more voices into government), we're a country that hasn't descended into anarchy ever, and fought alone with the great help of the then Empire nations for 3 years in the world's major war on its behalf against the greatest evil in the history of mankind.

I'm afraid that, for me, the great French contribution to modern history founders on the Vichy regime and the opportunistic and collaborative deportation of hundreds of thousands of Jews and other 'undesirables' from its towns and cities, alongside a strangely comfortable wartime existence for those left behind, on the whole. It's a beautiful place with great food and wine, and some lovely people, but please don't make France any kind of template or guide as to how Britain should be or what we should learn from. Ethnic minority groups in Paris, Marseille and Lille would, i'm sure, have a lot to say about liberty, equality and fraternity in the modern France.

Every country has its good and bad, us very much included. Bashing Britain completely and those who voted to leave the EU as if there is something wrong with them for having a different opinion to yours about the EU doesn't show great socialist principles of tolerance and diversity.

[WTF11]

Blimey we're quoting Ben Franklin the slave owner who said all people are created equal, and Switzerland, the place where they serve ***ist Arab men who push in in front of (non-Arab) women already being served', to quote my own experience several times with my wife in Geneva, and where FIFA was allowed grace and favour for decades to corruptly go about it's dubious business.

More to the point made previously about the wonders of Swiss democracy, because of the system of referenda being used for direct decision making, those with vested interest monopolise the choice of referendum. Hence why men in Switzerland didn't vote for a referendum to allow women to vote in elections until 1971.

Hardly a great example of how things should be.

In this country we get the government we deserve, and the one the majority chooses - with all its faults (and there's an argument for a version of proportional representation to allow more voices into government), we're a country that hasn't descended into anarchy ever, and fought alone with the great help of the then Empire nations for 3 years in the world's major war on its behalf against the greatest evil in the history of mankind.

I'm afraid that, for me, the great French contribution to modern history founders on the Vichy regime and the opportunistic and collaborative deportation of hundreds of thousands of Jews and other 'undesirables' from its towns and cities, alongside a strangely comfortable wartime existence for those left behind, on the whole. It's a beautiful place with great food and wine, and some lovely people, but please don't make France any kind of template or guide as to how Britain should be or what we should learn from. Ethnic minority groups in Paris, Marseille and Lille would, i'm sure, have a lot to say about liberty, equality and fraternity in the modern France.

Every country has its good and bad, us very much included. Bashing Britain completely and those who voted to leave the EU as if there is something wrong with them for having a different opinion to yours about the EU doesn't show great socialist principles of tolerance and diversity.

With you Jez, us against world. Make it so (and f00k everyone who gets in my way)

[WTF11]

With you Jez, us against world. Make it so (and f00k everyone who gets in my way)

France is a lovely country if only it wasn't populated by the French!