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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasterman View Post
    There is no app! And even if there was, it would be completely voluntary.
    Test and track service then or is there any other word you’d like to use?
    They can also make it compulsory if need to
    Last edited by millertop; 28-05-2020 at 05:54 PM.

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    Groups of up to six people from different households will be able to meet outside in England from Monday
    They can meet in gardens and private outdoor spaces as long as they keep two metres apart.

    8th June for Dentist to open.

    My appointment was for July so hopefully they will keep that and not move it

    Schools open Monday for some, you decided yet Cayton?
    Last edited by millertop; 28-05-2020 at 06:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    I think you're being too generous and conciliatory to the govt and UK health advisors.
    A more aggressive approach would have reduced deaths and reduced the lockdown period. It would also have led to a reduced impact on the economy which we are yet to feel the full effects of.
    I'm not sure how allowing Cheltenham and Anfield would be deemed best prepared.
    It's not acceptable for our govt to say it's never happened here before so we did our best.
    Covid-19 is a completely new disease which was not reported to WHO until December 30th. With that being the case, I think it completely fair to cut the UK government some slack. The science of the illness and the dynamics of its spread are still being researched and debated - even the mortality rate is uncertain. Coupled with that, it is clear that the virus has mutated several times, including becoming better able to spread and to be more stealthy (with people becoming infectious before they become symptomatic), which means that the maths that sits under governmental responses has also changed over time.

    I’m sure that the government’s actions will be scrutinised for years at the end of this (as they should be). When we know what their advisers were telling them and can see the details of the decision making, we will be able to assess their performance from an informed position. Trying to do it now helps nobody and risks making unfair judgements. If the eventual conclusion is that 'they did their best' then surely we could ask for no more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    The population itself didn't have much of a problem with undertaking the lockdown once it became clear how the virus was moving and of the necessity to stay home. We did it immediately and quite effectively.

    the problem was it happened 2 or 3 weeks later than it should have happened as we weren't given appropriate information and instruction before then. That delay has proven deadly and is why we are where we are.
    I disagree with your assessment of the population’s acceptance of the lockdown. Look back through this site and you will find people belly-aching about not being able to drive into the Peak District and heated debates about the wisdom of having a beer and food event in the NYS car park. Look at how people continued to flock to pubs and restaurants until they were closed. In my opinion, opposition to the lockdown would have been much louder if we had tried to do it earlier. People followed the lockdown because they could see the danger at the time it was imposed or, as you put it - once it became clear how the virus was moving and of the necessity to stay home.

    See above for my views upon the wisdom of trying to assess the government’s actions at this moment in time. You should also check out ‘hindsight bias’ and ‘outcome bias’. I have to deal with them both in my job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    You should also check out ‘hindsight bias’ and ‘outcome bias’. I have to deal with them both in my job.
    Crown green bowler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I have to deal with them both in my job.
    You had to throw that in 😂😂

    The natives will be frothing at the mouth.

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    This might help someone:

    Just some Information about some specific financial support available due to Coronavirus lockdown.

    If anyone has a holiday let and claims small business rates relief, be sure to apply for the £10k grant that’s available.

    I wouldn’t want anyone to miss out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howdydoo View Post
    This might help someone:

    Just some Information about some specific financial support available due to Coronavirus lockdown.

    If anyone has a holiday let and claims small business rates relief, be sure to apply for the £10k grant that’s available.

    I wouldn’t want anyone to miss out.
    Saw that a while back on the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-52420392

    Was tempted to put in a claim as we let out our place over there and use it to pay for our holidays. Does that count as a holiday let?

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    What basis do you let it out?

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    Sporting/virus story to warm the cockles of your heart (NOT). Baseball here should have started in March and they are trying to get it started and complete about a half season (82 of 162 games). As there will be no income from fans the proposal from the owners is that players on $35M will take a 75% pay cut on a sliding scale down to players on minimum wage of $600K taking a 50% pay cut. So called "Superagent" Scott Boras has advised his many clients to 'not bail out their employers' and refuse the deal. I suppose living on just $9M for 4-5 months work is a hardship.

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