I like Nicola

[noahrab]

Hi Shaded.
At present the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) pays state pensions throughout the whole of the UK but an independent Scottish Government would have to pay all the state pensions for OAP’s throughout Scotland. They would also be responsible for the payment of all benefits to Scottish residents where applicable.
Incidentally the Scottish Government have already been given powers by Westminster to pay extra benefits in Scotland. A couple of years ago Michael Russell SNP MSP for Argyll and Bute and former Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning admitted on BBC Question Time that they had been awarded these powers but could not use them as they were too expensive.
How can Scotland become an independent country if they cannot currently use extra welfare powers that have been granted to them because they would cost too much money out of their annual handout from Westminster.
This is the real world not Brigadoon!!

It’s scary how little people know about the costs of being an independent country and how it would be financed.

FREEDUMB

SORE ELBOW

[shaded]

for noah and islay

i for one openly admit to be far from an expert on what has been talked about so far,however if the snp decided to run a proper fact focused,how much is spent/raised etc etc in simple virus like graphs for us "dumber" folk then that would be a huge step in the correct direction and certainly not in the direction of "brigadoon"

Can you put your hand on your heart and say that you believe that at the last referendum no "stayer politician"told us a lie,and by the way i voted to remain at that election.Westminster was frightened very frightened that the referendum was going against them.

this is prob the last il comment but ffs lets be a little less condescending than to call people dumb,just because they dont know the exact figures relevant to running a country,id expect to see the full in and outs in simple terms when the independence vote comes around again and the independence "for's" to do an awful lot better in explaining things,if SNP manage to do that convincingly then the union will end.imo of course and im not an snp voter but will now vote for independence at the next time of asking to do so

[noahrab]

for noah and islay

i for one openly admit to be far from an expert on what has been talked about so far,however if the snp decided to run a proper fact focused,how much is spent/raised etc etc in simple virus like graphs for us "dumber" folk then that would be a huge step in the correct direction and certainly not in the direction of "brigadoon"

Can you put your hand on your heart and say that you believe that at the last referendum no "stayer politician"told us a lie,and by the way i voted to remain at that election.Westminster was frightened very frightened that the referendum was going against them.

this is prob the last il comment but ffs lets be a little less condescending than to call people dumb,just because they dont know the exact figures relevant to running a country,id expect to see the full in and outs in simple terms when the independence vote comes around again and the independence "for's" to do an awful lot better in explaining things,if SNP manage to do that convincingly then the union will end.imo of course and im not an snp voter but will now vote for independence at the next time of asking to do so

All politicians lie.

Dumb is kind compared to traitor, quisling, Tory basturds, not a true Scot and phuck off to England.

Why anyone would vote to make Scots poorer is beyond me.

What brand of socialism is that?

[Shuntz]

I prefer the term Vichy feck but you have came up with a few good ones lol

Uk is divided over brexit ,how to deal with Covid and Scotland is still divided on Independence as well as the other two.

Maybe a Labour resurgence will bring the UK together again.

I watched the BBC rerun of the 97 Election Last weekend and although it ended badly I was genuinely enthused by Labour then which although not “real Labour “ for many were very electable.

[islaydarkblue]

for noah and islay

i for one openly admit to be far from an expert on what has been talked about so far,however if the snp decided to run a proper fact focused,how much is spent/raised etc etc in simple virus like graphs for us "dumber" folk then that would be a huge step in the correct direction and certainly not in the direction of "brigadoon"

Can you put your hand on your heart and say that you believe that at the last referendum no "stayer politician"told us a lie,and by the way i voted to remain at that election.Westminster was frightened very frightened that the referendum was going against them.

this is prob the last il comment but ffs lets be a little less condescending than to call people dumb,just because they dont know the exact figures relevant to running a country,id expect to see the full in and outs in simple terms when the independence vote comes around again and the independence "for's" to do an awful lot better in explaining things,if SNP manage to do that convincingly then the union will end.imo of course and im not an snp voter but will now vote for independence at the next time of asking to do so

Hi Shaded,
I would never call you dumb but there is no way that I will allow the Scottish public to sleepwalk into Scotland becoming an independent country.
The SNP are notorious for sweeping under the carpet anything that puts them in a bad light.
You are probably not aware that Alex Salmond wanted a third option on the ballot paper for the 2014 referendum. He wanted people to be given the option to vote for Devo Max as Alex Salmond deep down did not want the hassle of running an independent Scotland.
With the Devo Max option Alex Salmond would take all the credit for everything that the Scottish Government did well whilst blaming the Westminster Government for everything that went wrong.
David Cameron refused to allow the Devo Max option on the Independence ballot paper with only a straight Yes or No on the 2014 Independence ballot paper.
I know lots of other pitfalls of Scotland becoming an independent country including the day my wife and I ‘wiped the floor’ with Chris Law the SNP MP for Dundee West in the Kingsway West Tesco Extra. Chris Law left Tesco with his tail between his legs.

[islaydarkblue]

I am surprised that none of you have taken the bait about Nicola Sturgeon’s love life and how she took out an interdict in February 2017 to stop the UK newspapers and UK media publishing the details. This super injunction is still in force. However there is nothing to prevent newspapers and the media outwith the UK publishing this information.

[Deeranged]

I am surprised that none of you have taken the bait about Nicola Sturgeon’s love life and how she took out an interdict in February 2017 to stop the UK newspapers and UK media publishing the details. This super injunction is still in force. However there is nothing to prevent newspapers and the media outwith the UK publishing this information.

Nobody cares about Nicola Sturgeon's love life.

[Returnofrros]

Nobody cares about Nicola Sturgeon's love life.

Ken what hands up I do......especially when her and her party are bringing in the legislation they are about to and what is now being taught in schools.

[islaydarkblue]

Nobody cares about Nicola Sturgeon's love life.

I certainly do when she tries to hide it by taking out a super injunction. If you want to be in the public eye and be important then you have to take the good with the bad.
Their was an article in the Sun newspaper last February that talk was rife in both Westminster and Holyrood about Nicola Sturgeon’s exotic double life. Nicola laughed off the rumours and denied them as false.
She knew that the Sun newspaper could not print the truth as she had her interdict preventing them from doing so.
The truth will eventually come out as the interdict does not cover social media on the internet.
I suggest that you read the comments posted below the article some of which are quite revealing.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...true/#comments

[BCram]

Well, that topic went well. I was hoping that we might get other Nicola's and bring a bit of humour .

Think Salmond likes Nicola because she is keeping his seat warm for his triumphant return to lead the SNP. His dossier will be bad der than Islay's, IMO.