O/T:- Defund the bbc.

[i961pie]

Actually, I think the Democrats would accept defeat, but if these two are the finest candidates a country of 328 million people can come up with, I despair.

The democratic party might but some of the voters might not. Look at what is happening between rival supporters.

[sidders]

Let's be honest Sid. American politics has zero to do with who is the finest candidate. It is everything to do with who is the richest candidate. American politics is the biggest hypocrisy on the face of the planet. At least North Korea doesn't pretend it is democratic.

So why is it called 'The People's Democratic Republic of Korea'?
I would suggest that in the US it's not necessarily the richest candidate who wins through but the one who is backed by the richest corporations and - in the Republicans corner - the gun lobby.

[crazyfists]

I asked if any of the Boris lovers could offer a reasoned argument that the Tories have handled the Covid-19 crisis and education well. Your one word excuse (sorry, answer) was 'hindsight'.

That seems more of an admission of abject failure to me.

Like. You asked him for a reasoned argument and he said hindsight then just slagged off the left.

I wonder if Boris will meet the covid families group after saying he would when asked on TV then ducked out. What a man to look up to, he's a hero.

[drillerpie]

Look at what is happening between rival supporters.

A couple of months ago on the BLM thread I noted that potential for widespread political violence. It's perhaps an exaggeration to say it's widespread at this point, but Americans with extreme political views are currently killing each other on the streets, which is a remarkable thing to be typing in 2020.

I also noted that this would result in the next government being a more authoritarian one, and I've just checked the bookies odds and Trump and Biden are both around evens now. Biden was clear odds on favourite a couple of months ago.

There was only a small chance the Dems could lose this election and it required them to 1) pick an awful candidate and 2) go full woke. Right on cue they've gone and done both those things.

[sidders]

Like. You asked him for a reasoned argument and he said hindsight then just slagged off the left.

I wonder if Boris will meet the covid families group after saying he would when asked on TV then ducked out. What a man to look up to, he's a hero.

They'll find him holed up in a giant fridge somewhere, Crazy. PMQ at 12 today should be 'fun'.

[i961pie]

So why is it called 'The People's Democratic Republic of Korea'?
I would suggest that in the US it's not necessarily the richest candidate who wins through but the one who is backed by the richest corporations and - in the Republicans corner - the gun lobby.

The military are also in the republicans corner.

[EwarWooWar]

Actually, I think the Democrats would accept defeat, but if these two are the finest candidates a country of 328 million people can come up with, I despair.

Nope, the democrats will not concede https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/25...s-if-he-loses/.

The whole reason for mail in voting is not to concede https://www.axios.com/bloomberg-grou...e478d42bb.html

The reson for the mail in voting is to string the election out as far as possible, there have been so many recent occasions where mail in voting has cause problems but the mainstream press will not admit it
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...voting/614446/
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndwv/pr...election-fraud
https://lidblog.com/mail-in-ballot-voter-fraud/
https://www.inquirer.com/news/voter-...-20200521.html
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/texa...a-real-problem

I think that covers it but there are more if you want, what's that you do ok one more for now
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/poli...laims/2435162/

as for the military being with the Republicans, Nope

https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...puted-results/

The Media is pushing several lies about mail in voting and deliberately conflating mail in voting with Absentee voting. In mail in voting they send out a ballot to every registered voter under their registered address without any checks, it just gets sent to the address. In absentee voting it needs to be requested and there are checks that the requester needs to go through that will allow the ballot to be confirmed.

So the problem with Mail in voting is there are no checks on whether the registered voter still lives at the address, has died or is actually a citizen of the US. There are no checks at all. This has lead to some states having more registered voters that adults, mostly through people either death or moving away.

[BigFatPie]

https://twitter.com/ppollingnumbers/...603983874?s=21

Biden still ahead by 10 points. The general opinion appears to be that Trump got a small boost from the RNC, but that’s now wearing off.

If you can still get Biden at evens, dip your bread.

[jackal2]

I was listening to Andrew Neil on TV this morning and he was asked what he thought the direction the BBC was going.
He said they pandered to much to the young liberal metropolitan elite and ignored the rest of the country and its voters.
Quite interesting coming from one of the most experienced political commentators in the UK.

I see the incoming Director-General intends to tackle this, not just in news output but also the broader viewing offer such as comedy. I'll believe it when I see it, but he's entirely correct to do so. At present the BBC often seems to assume that the entire country thinks like London. To be fair they are not the only broadcaster making that mistake, but given that they receive licence-fee payer money they have a greater responsibility than any to be balanced in their output.

[BigFatPie]

I see the incoming Director-General intends to tackle this, not just in news output but also the broader viewing offer such as comedy. I'll believe it when I see it, but he's entirely correct to do so. At present the BBC often seems to assume that the entire country thinks like London. To be fair they are not the only broadcaster making that mistake, but given that they receive licence-fee payer money they have a greater responsibility than any to be balanced in their output.

The right/left comedy debate is one of the more stupid ones. The Tories have been in power for 10 years, is it surprising the majority of what passes for satire is aimed in their direction?

The ex Tory DG has no doubt got a brief to make the BBC as unwatchable as possible, when it will be conveniently scrapped/flogged off to mates because no one’s bothered about it anymore.