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  1. #11
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    Why are we seeing the EFL bending over backwards to help Macclesfield survive at the expense of Stevenage? Have Stevenage got the same debts as Macc? The same record of misconduct and the same shameful record of not paying players? The same points deducted and then dropped? What have Macc done to deserve such preferential treatment at the expense of another club?

    Macclesfield will start next season in L2 with negative points but what about Stevenage? Already relegated to non-league, that's what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    Why are we seeing the EFL bending over backwards to help Macclesfield survive at the expense of Stevenage? Have Stevenage got the same debts as Macc? The same record of misconduct and the same shameful record of not paying players? The same points deducted and then dropped? What have Macc done to deserve such preferential treatment at the expense of another club?

    Macclesfield will start next season in L2 with negative points but what about Stevenage? Already relegated to non-league, that's what.
    The EFL aren't favouring Macc over Stevenage. The punishment is set by an independent panel. EFL were seemingly hoping that they'd deduct enough points to stop it being their problem. If Macc don't meet the July 31st deadline, will they be allowed in next season? With the NL playoff being down for at the latest 31st July, is that just coincidence or not? Will they relegate Macc instead of Stevenage or relegate both at that point?

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    In principle I agree that a club which cannot prove its financial security should not be able to start a new season, but before we get too judgemental we should remember that Notts County FC spent longer in administration than any other club and escaped with very little censure from the Football League, so I wouldn't want to go wishing harsh treatment on others. It's right that we should be able to compete for a place back in the Football League through the play-offs, but I've got no preference on who we replace.

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    The independent Disciplinary Commission's judgement has been released regarding the decision to deduct 2 points from Macclesfield Town, that meant Stevenage remained bottom of League 2


    I could not copy the conclusion reached by the independent commission.

    https://twitter.com/ThomasFeaheny/st...65495247560705
    Last edited by Oldstripy; 26-06-2020 at 10:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldstripy View Post
    The independent Disciplinary Commission's judgement has been released regarding the decision to deduct 2 points from Macclesfield Town, that meant Stevenage remained bottom of League 2


    I could not copy the conclusion reached by the independent commission.

    https://twitter.com/ThomasFeaheny/st...65495247560705
    https://www.efl.com/siteassets/efl-d...cted-final.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    Why are we seeing the EFL bending over backwards to help Macclesfield survive at the expense of Stevenage? Have Stevenage got the same debts as Macc? The same record of misconduct and the same shameful record of not paying players? The same points deducted and then dropped? What have Macc done to deserve such preferential treatment at the expense of another club?

    Macclesfield will start next season in L2 with negative points but what about Stevenage? Already relegated to non-league, that's what.
    I understand all what you are saying and get it. The thing is Stevenage have nobody to blame for their relegation except themselves.

    There is no denying that Macclesfield are a shambles off the field and have been for a couple of years now. We have been there ourselves. Macclesfield have had numerous points deductions yet Stevenage were not able to capitalise on it. Winning 3 games from 36 games and loosing 9 games in a row is enough to warrant relegation for any club. That awful losing run was only halted by going into lockdown as well.

    It could be argued from a moral perspective that Stevenage may feel harshly treated by being relegated at the expense of Macclesfield, particularly if they are a better run club off the field.

    Unfortunately results and points are gained on grass and that is where Macclesfield were better than Stevenage this season.

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    It's points on the board that keep you in the league not how much/little you have in the bank. At the ened of the day Stevenage deserve thier relegation and to rely on Macclesfield getting docked 14 points in order for Stevenage to stay up as laughable!!!

    Having said that I can't see Macclesfield being able to start next season financially so I can see one less team in L2 again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD_MAGPIE View Post
    I understand all what you are saying and get it. The thing is Stevenage have nobody to blame for their relegation except themselves.

    There is no denying that Macclesfield are a shambles off the field and have been for a couple of years now. We have been there ourselves. Macclesfield have had numerous points deductions yet Stevenage were not able to capitalise on it. Winning 3 games from 36 games and loosing 9 games in a row is enough to warrant relegation for any club. That awful losing run was only halted by going into lockdown as well.

    It could be argued from a moral perspective that Stevenage may feel harshly treated by being relegated at the expense of Macclesfield, particularly if they are a better run club off the field.

    Unfortunately results and points are gained on grass and that is where Macclesfield were better than Stevenage this season.
    We haven't been near Macclesfield situation imo. How many points deductions now? But Stevenage are not being relegated at the expense of Macc, they are being relegated because on the field they were awful, far worse than we were last season.

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    Interesting. It seems one of the key considerations for not giving Macclesfield more than the 2 point suspended penalty was the effect of 13 points deducted in full against the curtailment of the league. In effect 13 points equates to 16 points on a full season basis.

    Overall the judgement reads relatively sympathetically to Macc. It does appear that the commission is genuinely independent, as I suspect the EFL would have wanted to wash their hands of the club.

    It will be really interesting if they are unable to present a viable business case by 31st July, as to whether the EFL rescind the relegation of Stevenage or promote a third club from the NL. Maybe that's why the Stevenage chairman is still agitating, as the threat of legal action might lead the EFL to take the line of least resistance, were this to happen.

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    It’s being reported that the EFL is considering an appeal against Macclesfield's 2-point deduction after complaints from clubs.

    Any heavier punishment would relegate Macclesfield and save Stevenage.

    Macclesfield face renewed threat of relegation as EFL considers rivals' appeal of 'lenient' punishment
    Football League chairman Rick Parry is weighing up the option of contesting two-point deduction

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    Football League chairman Rick Parry is weighing up the option of contesting Macclesfield's two-points deduction for breaches of regulations, after complaints from a number of League Two clubs.

    Macclesfield avoided relegation from the fourth tier by just one point after an independent disciplinary commission ruled last month they should be docked two points over non-payments of wages.

    The ruling ensured Stevenage, bottom of the league, will be relegated to the National League but rival clubs have insisted the punishment was too lenient.

    The EFL is now in talks over whether to appeal against the decision, leaving Macclesfield facing a nervous wait to discover if they receive heavier...

    https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/st...83814203060225

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