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    So be it.


    Quote Originally Posted by foxy_s24su View Post
    You were banned permanently in the first instance, and you've had far more than one 'infraction' over a period of time, your latest little ditty incurred 4 alone and that's not being picky.
    Well you need to sort it out then. Because the message I had on screen was that the ban would be lifted on 30 July.

    I've only had more than one infraction if I've not been told about them. And what kind of way to operate is that?

    4 is being picky being as though it was 1) f**cking PRIVATE and 2) all part of the same brief exchange. It suits you to make it 4 though, clearly.


    Quote Originally Posted by foxy_s24su View Post
    You were banned before you made these comments, due to the latest round of abusing someone who disagreed with you. Couldn't really care less about comments made about me, if you recall, you slagged us on here multiple times before even registering in the first place, if I was as petty or bothered as you make out, you'd have never have had a log in.
    'The latest round' implies I did this regularly. Don't bullsh!t me. I always held back. And I was provoked far more than most.

    It wasn't a simple disagreement. It was unprovoked, hostile and provocative. It was totally inappropriate. Yet I kept my response private. As always, choosing not to sidetrack the thread. Not that you seem to value anything like that.

    Your refusal to simply logout my account paints a picture of a very petty man indeed, I'm afraid.


    Quote Originally Posted by foxy_s24su View Post
    Personal abuse is against the rules and always has been, so when you go on a tirade against someone, you are breaking the rules... Homophobia and racism are also obviously against the rules. Everyone knows that and it's not much to ask is it really? You might call it left wing or 'PC brigade', I call it simply having respect for fellow Blades and having adult discussion rather than playground abuse.
    You know it wasn't really homophobic. And please show me where I've 'done a racism'.

    I know personal abuse is against the rules. But I never thought you'd so readily ban someone for something posted privately. Now I know. That's useful!

    I've posted on there for 5 years, FFS. You should know that I'm as respectful as anybody unless I have reason not to be.


    Quote Originally Posted by foxy_s24su View Post
    assume that's why you are disappointed with your ban? Forgive me if I'm not overly concerned about banning self appointed 'top posters' for abusing other posters. In fact if the evidence of this thread is anything to go by, I'm more than happy that I must be doing something right.
    You have banned far too many good posters. You allow trash to run riot. Quality control doesn't enter your thinking. You're paying for it now and will continue to.

    I'm disappointed because (congratulations) you currently have a monopoly as far as Blades forums are concerned and I'm a committed supporter and use the site to keep up with things. It's currently the best place for it. That doesn't mean I like everything about it. Simple enough.


    Quote Originally Posted by foxy_s24su View Post
    Unfortunately for you, given that it's our site, we make our own decision to implement a few rules for the good of the majority, even if you have a complete disregard for them. If you abused folk in the pub or in the stands, you'd get a negative reaction, you'll get the same on our site. You are happy to be a keyboard warrior and see it as your right, feel free to do so elsewhere, i'm just not hosting you spewing it at anyone with a different opinion to yourself.

    You also know where I am if you wanted to discuss it with me, instead you choose to get others to ask questions and lash out on here.

    We don't need to run a forum if we wanted a 'foot in the door at the club', not that you've the first idea. Well done for again for making things personal, inaccurate and irrelevant though.

    We created the place to actively encourage a diversity in opinion, that's the whole point, pretty pointless to create a discussion forum for anything else really? If I wanted an echo chamber, it'd be a lot easier just to talk amongst fellow 'lefties' and 'sad acts' wherever it is us 'PC Brigade' hang about these days wouldn't it?
    Again, I don't disregard the rules. You're showing a huge bias towards a very isolated recent post and conveniently ignoring the best part of 18,000 others. Furthermore, I kept it private.

    And again, it's nothing to do with differing opinions. It's to do with the context, the tone, and the pointed, provocative subtle personal abuse. You will not find me abusing anyone for simply having a different opinion. So don't give me that convenient bullsh!t.

    Many posters there abuse others constantly but because they don't just call them a 'c**nt' you don't even notice. Then it's the people who call them c**nts who get banned. You need to look at the root causes of abuse - they're the ones who can't handle differing opinions.

    I know where you are! You f**cking locked my account! You're Mr Busy aren't you? I wouldn't expect a reply to any email. I did not ask any other poster to ask you. He did that of his own accord. (Don't hold that against him, he's not associated with me)

    The 'forum owner' status certainly doesn't do you any harm, does it?

    Diversity of opinion as long as it's not remotely right wing (or football wise - 'unpositive')! If it is you're on a one way road to the exit door, one way or the other.
    You literally banned someone the other week for simply saying "if Mousset wasn't black we'd all be calling him a fat lazy c**nt". Sorry, but if that's not indicative of a hugely 'PC' forum then I don't know what is.

    What you have now is nothing close to diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    Well you need to sort it out then. Because the message I had on screen was that the ban would be lifted on 30 July.

    I've only had more than one infraction if I've not been told about them. And what kind of way to operate is that?

    4 is being picky being as though it was 1) f**cking PRIVATE and 2) all part of the same brief exchange. It suits you to make it 4 though, clearly.
    Well no, the whole thing could have been avoided entirely had you not chosen to break the very clear rules and abuse someone. We've been more than clear, not that we should really need to keep reminding people. As much as you appear to think it's my fault you abused someone and therefore attracted the usual punishment for breaking the rules, it was you who chose to do so.

    It doesn't suit me in the slightest, I've better things to do than babysit and then sit of an evening and read your abuse of me because I had the audacity to apply the rules you ignored.

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    'The latest round' implies I did this regularly. Don't bullsh!t me. I always held back. And I was provoked far more than most.

    It wasn't a simple disagreement. It was unprovoked, hostile and provocative. It was totally inappropriate. Yet I kept my response private. As always, choosing not to sidetrack the thread. Not that you seem to value anything like that.
    If there wasn't an accumulation, your ban would have more likely been temporary, there was an accumulation, therefore it isn't. I've no need to make anything up have I?

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    Your refusal to simply logout my account paints a picture of a very petty man indeed, I'm afraid.
    What? My refusal to 'logout your account'? I've no idea what you are talking about?

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post

    You know it wasn't really homophobic. And please show me where I've 'done a racism'.

    I know personal abuse is against the rules. But I never thought you'd so readily ban someone for something posted privately. Now I know. That's useful!

    I've posted on there for 5 years, FFS. You should know that I'm as respectful as anybody unless I have reason not to be.
    In that instance, you used a term commonly used as a homophobic slur, in any case, in any intended definition of the word, it was personal abuse and would attract exactly the same infraction, so it matters little.

    You never thought, so soon after an appeal for people to cut the abuse across the board, that you perhaps shouldn't drop a string of personal abuse at someone?


    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post

    You have banned far too many good posters. You allow trash to run riot. Quality control doesn't enter your thinking. You're paying for it now and will continue to.
    'Quality control' doesn't come into my thinking when applying the rules no, the rules do. I couldn't care less if it's the poster with the most posts or a newbie with 1, breaking the rules is breaking the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    I'm disappointed because (congratulations) you currently have a monopoly as far as Blades forums are concerned and I'm a committed supporter and use the site to keep up with things. It's currently the best place for it. That doesn't mean I like everything about it. Simple enough.
    There's a number of reasons for that, one of which is that we apply a very simple set of rules in the intentions of allowing everyone to be able to be comfortable contributing to discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    Again, I don't disregard the rules. You're showing a huge bias towards a very isolated recent post and conveniently ignoring the best part of 18,000 others. Furthermore, I kept it private.

    And again, it's nothing to do with differing opinions. It's to do with the context, the tone, and the pointed, provocative subtle personal abuse. You will not find me abusing anyone for simply having a different opinion. So don't give me that convenient bullsh!t.

    Many posters there abuse others constantly but because they don't just call them a 'c**nt' you don't even notice. Then it's the people who call them c**nts who get banned. You need to look at the root causes of abuse - they're the ones who can't handle differing opinions.
    "A very isolated recent post" was firmly against the rules, again, I wasn't responsible for you abusing someone was I?

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    I know where you are! You f**cking locked my account! You're Mr Busy aren't you? I wouldn't expect a reply to any email. I did not ask any other poster to ask you. He did that of his own accord. (Don't hold that against him, he's not associated with me)
    No, you got your account locked by breaking the rules. The only communication I've had from you is a single question via someone else, instead, you decide to slag me off elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    The 'forum owner' status certainly doesn't do you any harm, does it?
    Well it means I spend far less time being able to discuss the Blades online, get a range of abuse calling me every political persuasion under the sun and people taking a pop at me personally mainly for applying the basic rules of asking people not to abuse each other. I'm not entirely sure what you are insinuating?

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    Diversity of opinion as long as it's not remotely right wing (or football wise - 'unpositive')! If it is you're on a one way road to the exit door, one way or the other.
    I host decades of negative chat on the Blades. I couldn't care less what political leaning someone has as long as they abide by the rules. This week I've been accused of being far both sides of the spectrum by two different people I've banned for calling each other names.


    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    You literally banned someone the other week for simply saying "if Mousset wasn't black we'd all be calling him a fat lazy c**nt". Sorry, but if that's not indicative of a hugely 'PC' forum then I don't know what is.

    What you have now is nothing close to diversity.
    I didn't though did I? I'm also not sure what Mousse's skin colour has anything to do with anything? He's been called lazy plenty, he's also been called fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxy_s24su View Post
    Well no, the whole thing could have been avoided entirely had you not chosen to break the very clear rules and abuse someone. We've been more than clear, not that we should really need to keep reminding people. As much as you appear to think it's my fault you abused someone and therefore attracted the usual punishment for breaking the rules, it was you who chose to do so.

    It doesn't suit me in the slightest, I've better things to do than babysit and then sit of an evening and read your abuse of me because I had the audacity to apply the rules you ignored.



    If there wasn't an accumulation, your ban would have more likely been temporary, there was an accumulation, therefore it isn't. I've no need to make anything up have I?



    What? My refusal to 'logout your account'? I've no idea what you are talking about?



    In that instance, you used a term commonly used as a homophobic slur, in any case, in any intended definition of the word, it was personal abuse and would attract exactly the same infraction, so it matters little.

    You never thought, so soon after an appeal for people to cut the abuse across the board, that you perhaps shouldn't drop a string of personal abuse at someone?




    'Quality control' doesn't come into my thinking when applying the rules no, the rules do. I couldn't care less if it's the poster with the most posts or a newbie with 1, breaking the rules is breaking the rules.



    There's a number of reasons for that, one of which is that we apply a very simple set of rules in the intentions of allowing everyone to be able to be comfortable contributing to discussion.



    "A very isolated recent post" was firmly against the rules, again, I wasn't responsible for you abusing someone was I?



    No, you got your account locked by breaking the rules. The only communication I've had from you is a single question via someone else, instead, you decide to slag me off elsewhere.



    Well it means I spend far less time being able to discuss the Blades online, get a range of abuse calling me every political persuasion under the sun and people taking a pop at me personally mainly for applying the basic rules of asking people not to abuse each other. I'm not entirely sure what you are insinuating?



    I host decades of negative chat on the Blades. I couldn't care less what political leaning someone has as long as they abide by the rules. This week I've been accused of being far both sides of the spectrum by two different people I've banned for calling each other names.




    I didn't though did I? I'm also not sure what Mousse's skin colour has anything to do with anything? He's been called lazy plenty, he's also been called fat.
    Might as well have just said "we have rules and you broke them"!

    The accumulation thing is the main thing I have a problem with.

    Accumulation over what period of time? Surely the period is the main factor here? My last and only 'infraction' was well over a year ago as far as I know, which again was a response to someone insulting me.

    I would like to see examples of 'offences' but more to the point, I received no notice of these accumulations so how could I know where I stand?

    You might be prone to making stuff up after seeing my comments about you. Again, it said I had a temporary ban initially....

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    You might be prone to making stuff up after seeing my comments about you. Again, it said I had a temporary ban initially....
    Little point responding to this really is there?

    You are more than happy to personally abuse me, bringing irrelevant personal information into things all the while calling me a liar when asking for further information, before I've even responded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxy_s24su View Post
    Little point responding to this really is there?

    You are more than happy to personally abuse me, bringing irrelevant personal information into things all the while calling me a liar when asking for further information, before I've even responded.
    I've not called you a liar. I've pointed out a reason you may be prone to looking for an excuse to permanently ban me.

    Please do explain about accumulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    I've not called you a liar. I've pointed out a reason you may be prone to looking for an excuse to permanently ban me.
    "You might be prone to making stuff up after seeing my comments about you"

    I don't need an excuse to permanently ban you, why would I? If I wanted an excuse to permanently ban you, why would I have allowed you on the site in the first place? Why would I wait until now to apparently 'make an excuse'? It's my site, I could do it at any time if I so wished.

    I banned you, for a foray of personal abuse. However you want to frame it, you are indignant at being banned for personally abusing someone, which is exactly the kind of result we've always said would occur in repeated instances of personal abuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by herbert View Post
    Please do explain about accumulation.
    I already have, you accumulated multiple instances of infractions for personal abuse, both in the recent example conversation you quote from and from previous examples of abusing people.

    You then accuse me of making excuses to ban you, because, in your mind I wish to react to your comments on me since... Comments that have been posted AFTER you were banned. They don't even come into it, but even if they did, wouldn't it be perfectly reasonable, for someone being slagged off elsewhere, including irrelevant personal details being posted, to feel aggrieved?

    Back to the previous analogy, would you expect to get barred for abusing another drinker, slag off the landlord, comment to the public about irrelevant personal details, slag off his pub and suggest it's crap without you in it, then expect him welcome you back into his boozer with open arms?
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    Regarding the email, I sent it through here. It said it had successfully sent....

    https://www.s24su.com/contact

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