Just to clear something up.

[bill46]

Regarding Wilks.I've seen one or two mention the scandal of selling to a relegation rival but that's not quite true.
When the January transfer window opened Hull City by virtue of beating Sheff.Wednesday on News Years Day had 40 points.I think they were top 6 or 7 in the league and I don't think we'd even reached 20 points at that stage.
The loan arrangement with Hull City gave them the option of signing Wilks on a permanent basis.
Since then Hull have managed to pick up 4 points including todays win. Unless someone has a crystal ball and forecast Hull to drop like a stone and be a relegation rival the club had every right to let a player leave who wasn't going to feature.
Struber rightly praised his ability but also said his mentality was not the kind he wanted.
Personally I liked Wilks but its the managers right to select the squad he wants.
We might be cursing tonight but in fairness Hull have picked up 4 points since Wilks signed and once Hull activated there option to buy him there was not a thing BFC could have done.

[animallittle3]

Regarding Wilks.I've seen one or two mention the scandal of selling to a relegation rival but that's not quite true.
When the January transfer window opened Hull City by virtue of beating Sheff.Wednesday on News Years Day had 40 points.I think they were top 6 or 7 in the league and I don't think we'd even reached 20 points at that stage.
The loan arrangement with Hull City gave them the option of signing Wilks on a permanent basis.
Since then Hull have managed to pick up 4 points including todays win. Unless someone has a crystal ball and forecast Hull to drop like a stone and be a relegation rival the club had every right to let a player leave who wasn't going to feature.
Struber rightly praised his ability but also said his mentality was not the kind he wanted.
Personally I liked Wilks but its the managers right to select the squad he wants.
We might be cursing tonight but in fairness Hull have picked up 4 points since Wilks signed and once Hull activated there option to buy him there was not a thing BFC could have done.

The club gave him a four year deal , has Struber actually worked out yet that certain players need working on .

Sure let him go out on loan , no problem , part of the development if you will .

£1.2m and a four year deal ?

6 months later he's not got the right mentality , no shyte sherlock , weren't we familiar with his background when we signed him then ?

Of course we were .

Absolute joke of a club run by fecking w@nkers .

[animallittle3]

Bill

You've also got to factor in Winnall going to Wednesday when we were 7th in the Championship and they were a point better off than us in 6th .

Last season Isgrove was loaned to Portsmouth and Moncur was transferred to Luton , both direct promotion rivals .

Now this Wilks situation .

They are taking the fecking pyss out of you man .

Name me another club who have done the above ?

Name me one ?

[SBRed48]

He was a key element of the most successful transfer window in BFC history. Whether Hull had the right to convert his loan to permanent in view of the season end date changing or it had to be 30th June is irrelevant. The mistake was made either in initial bad recruitment or in not following the club policy and allowing a young player to develop.

[SBRed48]

Regarding Wilks.I've seen one or two mention the scandal of selling to a relegation rival but that's not quite true.

We might be cursing tonight but in fairness Hull have picked up 4 points since Wilks signed and once Hull activated there option to buy him there was not a thing BFC could have done.

The "one or two" is clearly yet another dig at me after your "disciples" dig the last time you posted on here. I am becoming worried for you about your developing obsession Bill.

Your post does not "clear things up". There is an element of doubt in this unusual season as to whether any conversion of loan to permanent which was intended to occur at the end of a season still applies when the season has not yet finished. I am convinced that had Hoss wished to frustrate Hull to deny a relegation rival his services he would have reverted to his usual legal challenge mode. I am convinced he just rolled over in order to get the money from Hull. I agree Hull were not rivals in January but my point is letting him go without a fight to our present relegation rivals.
You may have sight of the contract which specifies it must be 30th June rather than what was stated in January that it would be until the end of the season. If so please quote the relevant section.

[bill46]

The "one or two" is clearly yet another dig at me after your "disciples" dig the last time you posted on here. I am becoming worried for you about your developing obsession Bill.

Your post does not "clear things up". There is an element of doubt in this unusual season as to whether any conversion of loan to permanent which was intended to occur at the end of a season still applies when the season has not yet finished. I am convinced that had Hoss wished to frustrate Hull to deny a relegation rival his services he would have reverted to his usual legal challenge mode. I am convinced he just rolled over in order to get the money from Hull. I agree Hull were not rivals in January but my point is letting him go without a fight to our present relegation rivals.
You may have sight of the contract which specifies it must be 30th June rather than what was stated in January that it would be until the end of the season. If so please quote the relevant section.

Your self importance knows no bounds.It wasn't a dig at you or anyone. I posted because some didn't seem to know what the deal consisted of.If Struber doesn't want or rate any player why should we be lumbered paying possibly 4/6k a week for a player to sit on his settee at home smoking whatever he was filmed smoking a few months ago.I know you don't like the owners I've no problem with that it's your choice but on this occasion surely they've acted on the fact the manager doesn't rate him rightly or wrongly .The deal was agreed in January not July .Transfers happen at every club but it seems are club are found to be wrong in everything they do and in my view that's got to be wrong.
Stendel for example the once shining light at Oakwell took over a struggling team in Hearts and the first thing he did was to release 2 experienced club legends and replace one of them with a 20 year, old just what a relegation threatened team need.My point being all managers see things from a different perspective to us mere supporters.
From a legal point of view I can't see what more the board could have done.

[Exiletyke]

Your self importance knows no bounds.It wasn't a dig at you or anyone. I posted because some didn't seem to know what the deal consisted of.If Struber doesn't want or rate any player why should we be lumbered paying possibly 4/6k a week for a player to sit on his settee at home smoking whatever he was filmed smoking a few months ago.I know you don't like the owners I've no problem with that it's your choice but on this occasion surely they've acted on the fact the manager doesn't rate him rightly or wrongly .The deal was agreed in January not July .Transfers happen at every club but it seems are club are found to be wrong in everything they do and in my view that's got to be wrong.
Stendel for example the once shining light at Oakwell took over a struggling team in Hearts and the first thing he did was to release 2 experienced club legends and replace one of them with a 20 year, old just what a relegation threatened team need.My point being all managers see things from a different perspective to us mere supporters.
From a legal point of view I can't see what more the board could have done.

I have to say bill your "one or two"comment resonated with me as a dig at SB which I know he can take & will defend his position on the club but not as a result of any self importance
Moving on to Stendel any manager will have his own beliefs on any particular player as that is essentially his job but you may wish to refect on his gesture of not taking any wages during his last few months at Hearts not something which is usual in modern football
I seem to recall reading that the prescence of the two experieced players was not condusive to harmony in the club
However relegation at Hearts cost him his job,so so much for that gesture
In conclusion I am yet to see one redeeming feature of our current owners

[Ponte_Steve24]

I have to say bill your "one or two"comment resonated with me as a dig at SB which I know he can take & will defend his position on the club but not as a result of any self importance
Moving on to Stendel any manager will have his own beliefs on any particular player as that is essentially his job but you may wish to refect on his gesture of not taking any wages during his last few months at Hearts not something which is usual in modern football
I seem to recall reading that the prescence of the two experieced players was not condusive to harmony in the club
However relegation at Hearts cost him his job,so so much for that gesture
In conclusion I am yet to see one redeeming feature of our current owners

Stendel carried on at Hearts where he left off at Barnsley. As Heckingbottom did at Leeds and Hibernian. There comes a point where you ask why was he put on gardening leave at Hannover too? People aren't victims all the time. It's a results business.

[Exiletyke]

Stendel carried on at Hearts where he left off at Barnsley. As Heckingbottom did at Leeds and Hibernian. There comes a point where you ask why was he put on gardening leave at Hannover too? People aren't victims all the time. It's a results business.

So his one whole season at home without defeat & pushing on to the hundred points mark really is a good example of poor results
He needed serious backing which I don't think he got
Looking at our current plight with owners who have chosen our current manager & brought in too many inexperienced youngsters really have done well in the results business

[bill46]

I have to say bill your "one or two"comment resonated with me as a dig at SB which I know he can take & will defend his position on the club but not as a result of any self importance
Moving on to Stendel any manager will have his own beliefs on any particular player as that is essentially his job but you may wish to refect on his gesture of not taking any wages during his last few months at Hearts not something which is usual in modern football
I seem to recall reading that the prescence of the two experieced players was not condusive to harmony in the club
However relegation at Hearts cost him his job,so so much for that gesture
In conclusion I am yet to see one redeeming feature of our current owners

I can assure you Exile it wasn't a dig at anybody I've barely looked at Tykesmad for a few weeks.I was just stating for anybody who didn't know the deal was agreed in January and it wasn't something we could have got out of.The fact that Wilks scored last night is irrelevant in the fact that its a game he would have played in anyway during his loan spell.