Piss poor

[champs95]

Yet again. We owe a few clubs an apology.
Please leave. Crap season, 3 points is no real improvement. We are heading nowhere.

Danny Graham, that was pathetic. 600 games of experience, and you are still offside.

This final game sums up how poor we are. 6 defeats in 10 games. Mowbray, you need to leave.

[Saxo1man41]

Yet again. We owe a few clubs an apology.
Please leave. Crap season, 3 points is no real improvement. We are heading nowhere.

Danny Graham, that was pathetic. 600 games of experience, and you are still offside.

This final game sums up how poor we are. 6 defeats in 10 games. Mowbray, you need to leave.

Once again, an 'in yer face' type of side cause us too many problems .. If TM cannot address this problem, then maybe it's time for a change. Our record post lockdown is relegation form. As much as I want to back our manager, we can't afford another drop.

[champs95]

Once again, an 'in yer face' type of side cause us too many problems .. If TM cannot address this problem, then maybe it's time for a change. Our record post lockdown is relegation form. As much as I want to back our manager, we can't afford another drop.

We need a huge clear out. And we need to find someone who can get a tune put of some of the good young players.
Mowbray talks about integrity. He owes several clubs an apology tonight. Simply not even close to being good enough. 3 points more in 12 months in a very poor league, worse than last season isnt progression. Its heading backwards.

[Acido]

Hey guys, I was hoping you might do us a favour tonight, away at crappy Luton!.
Ne'eer mind though eh, I think we're safe because of Wigan's financial f*k up.

[champs95]

Mr Ingtegity owes you and a free others an apology. But well done and staying up. You are no worse than us. The criminal thing is, our manager was given a fair bit of money to spend, and given an excellent CB from Man City. And he still managed to not improve us.

[Acido]

Tahh Champs mate, and hey I feel your frustration.
What did you all think of us/Barnsley this season, in the two games ?.

[AucklandRover]

Tahh Champs mate, and hey I feel your frustration.
What did you all think of us/Barnsley this season, in the two games ?.

Acido - I have actually seen three of your games. I think you definitely deserved to stay up, and I see that has now happened.
Congratulations.

[Acido]

Acido - I have actually seen three of your games. I think you definitely deserved to stay up, and I see that has now happened. Congratulations.

Its nice of you to say that Aucks mate . (and yes, Im still up and Im still on the 'celebration' beers as we speak lol).
I must give credit to Luton though, they have also fought for their lives in recent games because they also looked like they were down and out at one stage.

[AucklandRover]

That was one of the most bizarre games I have witnessed.
Apart from anything else, I've only just seen the first 15 minutes because there was a problem with that period here, live!
Luton did not have a single shot on target (apart from the penalty!) and scored three goals.
I will be so glad to see the crowds back. This just doesn't feel real.
I was reasonably happy with some of the stuff I saw.
I thought Buckley was excellent. He turned up everywhere and showed a cool head. Obviously, he won't always get so much time on the ball.
Davenport was good too. (Very hard to tell if he got a touch to the ball first in the penalty incident).
Rankin-Costello grew into the game, and Brereton had a good first 20.
Carter was patchy, but he has a decent turn of speed for a big guy.

For me, next season could see the Academy finally come to the fore.
Not sure how good Fisher is, but the outfield should see plenty of game-time for Nyambe, Lenihan, Carter, Rankin-Costello, Travis, and Buckley.
Vale, Butterworth, Magloire, Grayson, Wharton and Platt might all be in contention too.
Those are all Academy graduates.
Then we have other youngish players in Davenport, Chapman, Brereton and Gallagher.
Add in Dack and Armstrong, and we have a very decent core.
I would keep Rothwell too, although he is one of the most frustrating players I've seen. He has loads of skill and creates space expertly, but the final product is often woeful! I think he and Chapman are best used for half an hour when defences are tiring.
Of the older midfielders, if I had to keep two, I would prefer Downing and Bennett to Holtby and Johnson. The latter two simply don't contribute enough.
I'd still like to see an experienced keeper and centre-back brought in.
The left-back position is simply up in the air. Perhaps Bell will finally come good!

So, I can see a starting XI such as:
NEW KEEPER
Nyambe Lenihan A.N. OTHER Bell
Travis Buckley Rankin-Costello
Dack Brereton Armstrong.

That would still leave plenty of quality on the bench. For example, Gallagher could do a straight swap for Brereton in the second half.

[champs95]

That was one of the most bizarre games I have witnessed.
Apart from anything else, I've only just seen the first 15 minutes because there was a problem with that period here, live!
Luton did not have a single shot on target (apart from the penalty!) and scored three goals.
I will be so glad to see the crowds back. This just doesn't feel real.
I was reasonably happy with some of the stuff I saw.
I thought Buckley was excellent. He turned up everywhere and showed a cool head. Obviously, he won't always get so much time on the ball.
Davenport was good too. (Very hard to tell if he got a touch to the ball first in the penalty incident).
Rankin-Costello grew into the game, and Brereton had a good first 20.
Carter was patchy, but he has a decent turn of speed for a big guy.

For me, next season could see the Academy finally come to the fore.
Not sure how good Fisher is, but the outfield should see plenty of game-time for Nyambe, Lenihan, Carter, Rankin-Costello, Travis, and Buckley.
Vale, Butterworth, Magloire, Grayson, Wharton and Platt might all be in contention too.
Those are all Academy graduates.
Then we have other youngish players in Davenport, Chapman, Brereton and Gallagher.
Add in Dack and Armstrong, and we have a very decent core.
I would keep Rothwell too, although he is one of the most frustrating players I've seen. He has loads of skill and creates space expertly, but the final product is often woeful! I think he and Chapman are best used for half an hour when defences are tiring.
Of the older midfielders, if I had to keep two, I would prefer Downing and Bennett to Holtby and Johnson. The latter two simply don't contribute enough.
I'd still like to see an experienced keeper and centre-back brought in.
The left-back position is simply up in the air. Perhaps Bell will finally come good!

So, I can see a starting XI such as:
NEW KEEPER
Nyambe Lenihan A.N. OTHER Bell
Travis Buckley Rankin-Costello
Dack Brereton Armstrong.

That would still leave plenty of quality on the bench. For example, Gallagher could do a straight swap for Brereton in the second half.

I am NOT being critical of the young kid, who is clearly not quite ready. I do agree by playing him, you can only find out. But Carter had a bit of a mare. Lenihan since lockdown has been really out of sorts I feel. I think Carters og was down to him. I must say, I disagree with his pace. I am now very concerned about his future from here. He was slower than slow. Johnson slow. The turning circle of an arctic cruiser. They possesed no real pace up front, but he was caught out badly for pace twice in the 2nd half. That's a concern. But kudos for giving him a few games, he can only leanr and improve from that, fair enough, no complaints. Will he be good enough? I wouldn't want to play in this defence so exposed so much, leaking goals for fun, no real midfield protection. And being so young, we need to be careful not to kill him too early in his career.

What a huge disappointment Holbty has been since he returned form injury. A shadow of the potential he showed early on with us.
I don't get disappointed with Rothwell, I expect him to have no end product. He isn't getting coached to be any better (who is?) and will always be the same. He won't wake up in Sept and suddenly be better. Without improving through coaching, he will stand still.
JRC and Buckley are at least putting themselves about. And both look good for next season. Davenport is a neat little player. Will TM trust him over Evans/Johnson? My feeling is no.

Taking our 17 goal striker with 30 mins to play defied logic. But I gave up trying to understand a while back, and just accept it now.