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Thread: Dealing with inept people!

  1. #21
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    Albionic, why are you not at Boris’s side, as his special advisor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kettering_baggie View Post
    Albionic, why are you not at Boris’s side, as his special advisor?
    I'm over qualified .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    A few observations from my own experiences as both a former graduate and an employee. No slight intended to any posters on this thread. I repeat, they are observations taken from my own experiences. Poor employees are generally the result of poor recruitment, insufficient training and little to no mentoring. A good starting point is the application itself. Do the applicant and their qualifications/experiences fit the job description for the post I am looking to fill?

    Next up, the interview process. Beware the articulate candidate who mirrors your body language and smiles a knowing smile. If they look like liars they generally are. Liars aren't to be trusted so don't employ them, graduates or not. Liars are like cuckoos in a nest, they blag their way through life feeding off those around them. They are a societal infestation and contaminate everything in their vicinity. I have worked with and attended courses with a number of articulate liars. They were complete w@nkers for the most part and a drain on my patience and personal resources.

    As for qualifications they mean you were able to structure your time sufficiently to pass an exam or a series of assessments set by people who often haven't attained much of truly genuine note in the fields they set curriculums for. If they had they probably wouldn't be setting curriculums. They'd be more likely to be achieving even more or they'd have their feet up somewhere nice and warm with something cold on the go. They are often (but not always of course) well meaning w@nkers, but w@nkers nonetheless.

    Once you've sorted the wheat from the chaff at the interview stage support your new employees and reap the rewards of their endeavours. Easier said than done in many instances as certain people are very hard work. It can take more effort than seems worthy but there's method to the madness. Sink or swim is an outdated mode of employment in most environments. It leads to perpetual recruitment, re training and is an avoidable expense to business. In my experience bosses who adhere to the sink or swim philosophy of employment are often bullying w@nkers who were bullied themselves at some point. That or they were simply buggered senseless either at home or at boarding school.

    Blustering around raging at the inadequacies of others is not a good look, especially when the answer to quandaries such as 'why are you so bad at what you do?' can often be found in the mirror. I have worked for a number of bosses like this and I have zero time for them as either bosses or as human beings. In good old business jargon, get your ducks in a row (or they'll sh it all over the place). Remember, poor employees are generally the result of poor recruitment, insufficient training and little to no mentoring.

    And others are just plain sh it at everything they do, good day all .


    Like this post 68 and spot on! This echos my point with the grads I know and have seen in very large successful blue chip companies who have been recruited by specialist graduate recruitment teams through rigorous interviews. They don’t usually get it wrong and grads have to meet strict targets and work all around the departments to get an in-depth knowledge of the business.

    Where recruitment is poor then employers have to take the blame as much as those they employ. It’s knowN that a male interviewer in some companies will side with a gorgeous looking bird flashing a lovely smile as opposed to your fat bird who may be the best candidate. Also how can you say the definition of a grad is the same where let’s say one as been successful at John Lewis with 3000 applicants and 5 interviews as opposed to a little marketing company with 20 staff advertising what they call a grad position with a couple of interviews. Totally different and different levels.

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    I had four jobs before becoming self employed.

    I had only one interview for each job even though I was told it was a multiple interview system for each of them.

    I was told after three of those opportunities that this was because I was the standout candidate and they didn’t want to risk losing me to another company😎

    Those three jobs were all sales jobs.

    I rewarded those astute bosses with stellar sales and it proved they were good at their jobs by trusting their instincts with me.

    I never once got asked about my exam results even though five O Levels was an okay return.

    At Hepworth Menswear I was top young salesman month after month over a long period for sales.

    At my frozen food company I was top rep 4 times in 5 years and at Dunlop I was top rep 4 times in 6 years and did the highest turnover ever achieved by a sales rep quadrupling my predecessor.

    I realise this looks like a major blowing of one’s own trumpet so I apologise for boring you all with this but it’s just to prove a point.

    I was not a high academic achiever and basically blagged my way through school making as little effort as possible and if I was 16 now I’d be getting forced into further education until I was 18 and then probably taking a degree in w a n k I n g or origami from 18 - 24 with the obligatory “gap” year thrown in which is pretty much a must these days it seems.

    Getting into work at 16 and not being forced into further education was a massive benefit to me and to many others of my generation.

    I agree with BaggieAl in that too many people are doing university because it’s now the “done thing” and apparently we are producing 44 times the number of photographers we have jobs for.

    If you want to be a doctor or engineer or brain surgeon then please do go to university but if you have no idea what you want to do as a career or you’re only going because it’s going to be a bad look for you or for your parents if you don’t then get a f u c k I n g life and get a job and start contributing.

    Hell.......you might actually fall into something you’re really good at and that you enjoy.

    University is for the few who really need it and not for the subsidised campus alcohol and a five year holiday.
    Last edited by mickd1961; 04-08-2020 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    One of my pet hates are people promoted above their ability or in a position by default that they’re not capable of managing.

    Some might be surprised at the level of ineptitude in my industry for example.

    The number of people who are supposed to be Sales Directors and Sales Managers who are actually more like “Sales Prevention People” is staggering.

    Today I took my four year old BMW in for a service and reminded them that the fuel sensor needed replacing that enables the fuel cap to be opened from inside or by pressing on the cap,it can only be released using the emergency cord hidden away in the boot!

    It had failed before my last service but last time I was told I needed to have an almost empty tank of fuel and to turn up for my next service light on fuel,

    Today I was told that because I was out of warranty I’d have to pay £108 for starters for it to go on the diagnostic machine yet it had been diagnosed last year.

    I was told it was my fault because I could’ve .......”come back at any time” in the last few months to get it done!

    This was said to me by the plummy voiced university grad who served me without a shred of irony.

    I pointed out they’d been shut during March,April and May when the warranty had run out but apparently this didn’t count.

    F u c k i n g inept stupidity and lack of customer appreciation.

    She was incredulous when I said I’d continue opening my boot to release the catch.

    They don’t get that I’ll win in the end because I’ll trade it in and they won’t know until they own it again but in the meantime they’ve p e e d off a very loyal customer just as I’d started thinking about changing my car.

    You can’t teach stupid or indeed inept it seems.
    Never heard of that malfunction on BMWs.

    Btw, I drive a 4-year-old BMW. 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishBaggie View Post
    Never heard of that malfunction on BMWs.

    Btw, I drive a 4-year-old BMW. ��
    Snap (well nearly) 66 640d Gran Coupe
    Much better than the 530d I had (but equally as crap in the snow)

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