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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    Hear hear..well said that man..
    Bet you any amount of money you would not say that if your grandkids were under the rubble Alf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Bet you any amount of money you would not say that if your grandkids were under the rubble Alf?
    Obviously not BT.. Most things I post are just to wind you up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    Obviously not BT.. Most things I post are just to wind you up..
    Keep 'em coming Alfie, nowt BT needs more than a regular dose of winding up, I can't do it all on my own.

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    https://www.wired.com/2008/10/iran-nails-spy/

    Having put the cat amongst the pigeons as it were with my earlier post I have it on good authority that the attack was carried out by an Israeli military pigeon carrying a small anti-matter bomb.
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    out of interest.


    Port of Tianjin (China)
    12 August 2015



    an explosion of about 800 tonnes of ammonium nitrate - registered as a magnitude 2.9 earthquake and generated seismic shock-waves with energy equivalent to 21.9 tonnes of TNT.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions







    Last edited by Norder; 08-08-2020 at 02:32 AM.

  6. #46
    I like outwood's pigeon theory - sounds credible to me...

    Drat, drat and double drat!

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    Israel TV: Hezbollah apparently wanted Beirut’s ammonium nitrate for Israel war.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com

    Hezbollah apparently planned to use the ammonium nitrate stockpile that caused a massive bast at Beirut’s port this week against Israel in a “Third Lebanon War,” according to an unsourced assessment publicized on Israel’s Channel 13 Friday night.

    Ammonium nitrate is used in the manufacture of explosives and is also an ingredient in making fertilizer. It has been blamed for massive industrial accidents in the past, and was also a main ingredient in a bomb that destroyed a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995. Last year, reports in Israel claimed that the Mossad had tipped off European intelligence agencies about Hezbollah storing caches of ammonium nitrate for use in bombs in London, Cyprus and elsewhere.

    Meanwhile former Israeli army chief and ex-defense minister Moshe Ya’alon, was quoted as saying Hezbollah had been aware of the material’s presence there and had control over the port. He said Israel had warned Lebanon about Hezbollah’s weapons stores and stockpiling of dangerous materials in Beirut and elsewhere in the country.
    Nasrallah, in a 2016 speech, threatened to fire missiles at an Israeli ammonia storage tank in the northern port city of Haifa. Nasrallah, in a 2016 speech, threatened to fire missiles at an Israeli ammonia storage tank in the northern port city of Haifa. “Lebanon has a ‘nuclear bomb’ today,the idea is that some of our missiles, combined with the ammonia in Haifa, will create the effect of an atom bomb.” (The tank has since been emptied out.)

    And it also cited a speech by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to the UN General Assembly in 2018, in which Netanyahu accused Hezbollah of storing missiles and other weapons in civilian areas. The prime minister alleged that one such site was “on the water’s edge” in Beirut.

    In London in 2015, following a Mossad tip off, British intelligence found four Hezbollah operatives with 3 tons of ammonium nitrate held in flour sacks, the TV report said, citing foreign reports. A similar process led to the discovery in Germany of Hezbollah operatives with enough ammonium nitrate “to blow up a city,” the report said. Germany subsequently banned Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.

    BT: Be careful ,wise proverb, ''Don't kill the goose that lays the Golden eggs ''......(In London in 2015, following a Mossad tip off, British intelligence.....??? ) Didn't school drill you about Aesop fables.
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    Fake News???

    Fireworks were stored in same Beirut warehouse as ammonium nitrate — report.....https://www.timesofisrael.com

    “There were 30 to 40 nylon bags of fireworks inside warehouse 12,” ex-worker Yusuf Shehadi told the Guardian.

    “They were on the left-hand side when you entered the door. I used to complain about this. It wasn’t safe. There was also humidity there. This was a disaster waiting to happen.”

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    Again you guys ''Stop killing the goose that lays golden eggs!!

    outwood's pigeon theory explained.

    Don't let our our secrets go just like passing clouds !! ''Do you know how much time it takes a pigeon to learn the language of the country we are about to attack?( In this case Arabic, it has to be able read where it's ordered to go !!'' Just think if a weapons store has been changed to toilet rooms ! Can you imagine what residents would be shouting ? ''Holy shoite!!!''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    Again you guys ''Stop killing the goose that lays golden eggs!!

    outwood's pigeon theory explained.

    Don't let our our secrets go just like passing clouds !! ''Do you know how much time it takes a pigeon to learn the language of the country we are about to attack?( In this case Arabic, it has to be able read where it's ordered to go !!'' Just think if a weapons store has been changed to toilet rooms ! Can you imagine what residents would be shouting ? ''Holy shoite!!!''
    The more you scribble your stuff Balan the more obvious it is to me the Israelis knew the ammonium nitrate storage facility presented a clear and present danger to Israel. And we all know what happens then, don't we?

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    .......''the Israelis knew the ammonium nitrate storage facility presented a clear and present danger to Israel. And we all know what happens then, don't we?.....but it did not happen Israel just watches ,with no action in Beirut made.Yes, we knew about Hezbollah's actions :


    Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah threatened in the past to destroy Israel by causing a massive explosion in the port of Haifa using ammonia tanks that he said would be like a “nuclear” explosion.

    Hezbollah’s supply of some explosive material had been cut off over the last decade. Hezbollah also allegedly sought to get the ammonium nitrate via Syria, bringing in thousands of tons of it from Homs. Hezbollah sought to dominate the agriculture ministry in Lebanon since 2009 to get a hold of the material.

    In February 16, 2016 Nasrallah also said that ammonia is stored in Haifa and that there are 15,000 tonnes of gas Haifa and that explosions there might cause the deaths of tens of thousands of people. “the expert added that this is exactly like a nuclear bomb. In other words Lebanon has a nuclear bomb. This is not an exaggeration.” Nasrallah laughs as he says this in the video, noting that Hezbollah refrained from striking the ammonia in the 2006 war. On Al-Mayadeen TV he said that a decision was made ‘several days ago that the ammonia storage tanks must be emptied.” He claimed it was because the “resistance” had talked about the storage tanks.

    “Moreover there is a ship that brings the ammonia, and distributed it to the Haifa facility and I said that the Haifa facility is the equivalent of a nuclear bomb, but the ship that carries ammonia to occupied Palestine is like five nuclear bombs,”

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