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Thread: Face Masks not stopping the spread of Coronavirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Nicola of course has a hidden agenda for wanting this Hate Crime Bill to become law as soon as possible especially where ***uality is concerned.
    What hidden agenda is that Islay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    The SNP controlled Scottish Government are running out of new policies to introduce hence the reason that they are keen in their Hate Crime legislation becoming law.
    The public consultation period has closed but there is no point giving your views as they will only accept views are in favour of the legislation.
    I submitted my views for a previous public consultation but the SNP controlled Scottish Government only published the views of the 3.5% of people in favour of their bill.
    Everyone else’s views including mine were disregarded.
    Nicola of course has a hidden agenda for wanting this Hate Crime Bill to become law as soon as possible especially where ***uality is concerned.
    I went to a public consultation meeting at Stirling uni around a year ago 're this legislation.

    I think there was around 60 people in groups of 10.

    Loads of yap a few exercises and questions and a bit of blarney from a couple of civil servants.

    It was everything I thought it would be......everyone is disadvantaged except hetro***ual middle aged males.

    If you ever get the chance to go to one I would it confirmed to me how intolerant progressive liberals are of any socially conservative views.

    And its the biggest percentage of people I have seen in the same room with purple/green/blue hair.😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post

    And its the biggest percentage of people I have seen in the same room with purple/green/blue hair.��
    You weren't at The Clash gig at The Caird Hall in 1980 then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I think it is possible to follow government guidelines without losing everything. I agree that we need people back to work and I think there should be more than social isolating as the only way to cope with the virus. Your personal freedom might be the cause of a severe problem for a friend. Surely you have modified your behaviour to try to keep golfing chums safe?
    I agree that getting back to work and restarting our economy is *****. Getting health services back to normal is also important. GP's can't see patients, hospital visits for all sorts of treatments have been stopped. These actions will have had serious consequences for many many people.
    The only way an acquaintance would get anything from me is if THEY were prepared to take a small risk and socialise.

    I'm not gonna impose myself on anyone who dosent want to mix.....so my personal freedom has no cost to them.

    They don't do flag pole touching and don't shake hands....something I was never keen on anyway.....apart from that nothing I can think of.

    Was playing in the senior pairs a week ago with a 77 year old and 80 year old, quite happy to sit down inside and have a shandy and a meal.....maskless.....one had had throat cancer the other "No bad but chesty"......the 77 year old said "we cud spend our last two or three years hiding or take a wee risk"....sensible opinion.

    What the NHS has done and still doing is nothing short of neglect imho. The decision makers have a lot to answer for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    You weren't at The Clash gig at The Caird Hall in 1980 then?
    No, don't do music......too many lefties😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I think it is possible to follow government guidelines without losing everything. I agree that we need people back to work and I think there should be more than social isolating as the only way to cope with the virus. Your personal freedom might be the cause of a severe problem for a friend. Surely you have modified your behaviour to try to keep golfing chums safe?
    I agree that getting back to work and restarting our economy is *****. Getting health services back to normal is also important. GP's can't see patients, hospital visits for all sorts of treatments have been stopped. These actions will have had serious consequences for many many people.
    I do not understand why GP’s cannot see their patients as dentists are now able to treat their patients.
    Pirior to having my Covid-19 test at Kings Cross Hospital I was examined by a GP who discovered that I was suffering from a slight chest infection.
    That was over two months ago and we are now supposed to be in Phase 3 of exiting the lockdown.
    My wife and I are very concerned that by speaking to a GP over the phone they could be missing something more serious.
    People could be in the very early stages of cancer yet it is missed because GP’s can only speak to their patients by phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I do not understand why GP’s cannot see their patients as dentists are now able to treat their patients.
    Pirior to having my Covid-19 test at Kings Cross Hospital I was examined by a GP who discovered that I was suffering from a slight chest infection.
    That was over two months ago and we are now supposed to be in Phase 3 of exiting the lockdown.
    My wife and I are very concerned that by speaking to a GP over the phone they could be missing something more serious.
    People could be in the very early stages of cancer yet it is missed because GP’s can only speak to their patients by phone.
    Being a GP in now a ‘boabys joab’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Aberdeen council, starting to fight back.
    Last night a gym owner in Kirkcaldy was complaining about not getting to reopen despite putting the laid down preventative measure in place. Suddenly today Nicola has changed her tune and decided that swimming pools and gyms can reopen at the end of this month.
    In my opinion it is time for the SPFL and the SFA to stand up to to Nicola and demand that fans be allowed to attend football matches throughout Scotland.
    The League Cup would an ideal time to let the fans into these games as the attendances are usually very poor as season tickets are not valid for these games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    I went to a public consultation meeting at Stirling uni around a year ago 're this legislation.

    I think there was around 60 people in groups of 10.

    Loads of yap a few exercises and questions and a bit of blarney from a couple of civil servants.


    It was everything I thought it would be......everyone is disadvantaged except hetro***ual middle aged males.

    If you ever get the chance to go to one I would it confirmed to me how intolerant progressive liberals are of any socially conservative views.

    And its the biggest percentage of people I have seen in the same room with purple/green/blue hair.��
    It is a wonder that the room was not full of SNP ‘trusties’ wearing kilts.

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    The discussion is changing. Save our nhs is no longer the mantra. Voices are being raised asking questions about how we are going to pay back the money that has been borrowed. Bosses are speaking up and the politicians will change their tune. That's my opinion. I know others think that there is an agenda for mass control but unemployment figures that go up and up over the coming months will change the agenda. Sturgeon has done such a job in shutting everything down that I think it unlikely that she will be able to avoid the conclusion that she was personally responsible for the collapse of the Scottish wealth creating economy.
    I'd like to support Islay's point about local councils being awash with cash. I believe they have collected rates but also collect furlough payments from Westminster. I don't know if this is true and I wonder if there is any source that could confirm this. Have businesses been entitled to rates holidays and what about the coun il tax payments on housing?

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