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Thread: Face Masks not stopping the spread of Coronavirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I do not understand why GP’s cannot see their patients as dentists are now able to treat their patients.
    I know a dentist, she's allowed to do a maximum of four fillings a day and only if they're emergencies. She isn't being paid for them either and is on basic salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    I know a dentist, she's allowed to do a maximum of four fillings a day and only if they're emergencies. She isn't being paid for them either and is on basic salary.
    What's an nhs dentists basic salary?

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    41k to 86k if salaried community dentist.

    79 to 107k if hospital dentist.

    I'd assume most are self employed to some degree though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    41k to 86k if salaried community dentist.

    79 to 107k if hospital dentist.

    I'd assume most are self employed to some degree though.
    For almost two years there was no permanent dentist on Islay.
    We had a succession of relief dentists doing emergency appointments including one dentist who managed to miss the Monday morning flight from Glasgow Airport to Islay. He arrived on the evening flight so that was a day’s emergency appointments cancelled.
    After an evening of Islay hospitality this dentist turned up for work at the dental surgery on Islay still drunk from the night before.
    He was immediately sent back to Glasgow on the next flight and the whole week’s appointments were cancelled. What a shambles.
    Needless to say NHS Highland swept this ‘incident’ under the carpet.
    We eventually got a new permanent dentist who is excellent. He was employed as an NHS salaried dentist but he was keen to become self employed so that he could do private work which is much more lucrative and with no NHS restrictions.
    A year ago he set up his own dental business on Islay.

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    The point isn't about level of earnings, and certainly isn't about any dentist on Islay, it's the fact that dentists are not allowed to treat their patients as stated. They're severely restricted in what they can do same as GPs are.

    The point's already been made that the whole 'stay at home and protect the NHS' fallacy is past - we've moved into 'wear a face covering and protect the muppets that knee jerked, over reacted and caused the panic in the first place'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    The only way an acquaintance would get anything from me is if THEY were prepared to take a small risk and socialise.

    I'm not gonna impose myself on anyone who dosent want to mix.....so my personal freedom has no cost to them.

    They don't do flag pole touching and don't shake hands....something I was never keen on anyway.....apart from that nothing I can think of.

    Was playing in the senior pairs a week ago with a 77 year old and 80 year old, quite happy to sit down inside and have a shandy and a meal.....maskless.....one had had throat cancer the other "No bad but chesty"......the 77 year old said "we cud spend our last two or three years hiding or take a wee risk"....sensible opinion.

    What the NHS has done and still doing is nothing short of neglect imho. The decision makers have a lot to answer for.
    I nor any of my friends has had any acquaintances or know of people who have died in the current pandemic.

    I understand that’s not the case for all but given the hysteria from the governments you’d think we would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    I nor any of my friends has had any acquaintances or know of people who have died in the current pandemic.

    I understand that’s not the case for all but given the hysteria from the governments you’d think we would have.
    You know nobody who has died,and still think the government is doing a bad job? You think that because you don't know anyone who has died that there is no worry over covid,despite the number of deaths worldwide? Really???

    Nicola Sturgeon has done a fantastic job despite the best efforts of Boris and his mates, but you will argue with the statistics,the facts,and anything else that does not agree with your own personal agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    The point isn't about level of earnings, and certainly isn't about any dentist on Islay, it's the fact that dentists are not allowed to treat their patients as stated. They're severely restricted in what they can do same as GPs are.

    The point's already been made that the whole 'stay at home and protect the NHS' fallacy is past - we've moved into 'wear a face covering and protect the muppets that knee jerked, over reacted and caused the panic in the first place'.
    Ahh I thought you were saying dentists were "hard up".

    The medical profession hasn't spoken out enough against what the SNP are doing, privately they do, I myself have spoken to a couple, but publicly very few.

    Their is a culture of fear of speaking out against govt policy......especially in the public employment sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    I nor any of my friends has had any acquaintances or know of people who have died in the current pandemic.

    I understand that’s not the case for all but given the hysteria from the governments you’d think we would have.
    I know one friend who was pretty ill with it but not hospitalised.

    Apart from that not much either.

    I reckon I'll know plenty (already do) who will get depressed, be made unemployed, have short hours, become ill through non diagnosis and have their savings and livliehoods wiped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantzer View Post
    You know nobody who has died,and still think the government is doing a bad job? You think that because you don't know anyone who has died that there is no worry over covid,despite the number of deaths worldwide? Really???

    Nicola Sturgeon has done a fantastic job despite the best efforts of Boris and his mates, but you will argue with the statistics,the facts,and anything else that does not agree with your own personal agenda.
    I agree with the sentiment expressed here that just because we don't know anyone who has suffered is not a valid excuse. I think that if the world collected all the same stats for anything like flu, like malaria, like dysentry every year the number of deaths would dwarf the number who have died with covid 19.

    Saving us from covid-19 might seem a phyrric victory for all govenrments, if the economy crashes.

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